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On the Epic Battle Cry Show they discussed the viability of Onlive and if it could become an alternative to game consoles... I think they nailed the main problems of such a system (starts at 14:40) :
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/47372.html



Actually, Crysis was used at GDC as a demo for Onlive's capabilities. There was apparently some lag, but Onlive is still in alpha stages so it should get much better later.



OnLive isnt going to take off. Something like that WILL come in the future. OnLive is sad because its like a guinea pig. Its not gonna succeed but you're gonna find out some interesting stuff.



The reason Reggie isn't worried is that Onlive is the future. The not-so-near future I mean.

I've said this in a few threads, but here it goes again... So far I still haven't seen any reasonable explanation of how they'll deal with latency and jitter to provide a satisfactory experience to even people with good connections (without having local data centers everywhere). Even for those people, traffic caps will be a big problem.

Onlive will be, at best, a niche product for quite a while. That's if it doesn't fail before it can take off.

shio said:
Actually, Crysis was used at GDC as a demo for Onlive's capabilities. There was apparently some lag, but Onlive is still in alpha stages so it should get much better later.

They have been working on it for seven years. This tells me that they have done 90%+ (if not 99%+) of what they can do to reduce lag on their end.

The remaining part is Internet lag which they can't control.

 



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internet cafe > OnLive



@Shio: Regardless of which way the system requirements are going, Steam is still the first in the line of fire if OnLive happens to take off.



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coolestguyever said:
he's probably right, but I do think its partly fear.

Wii will still kick ass no matter what but if onlive ever got popular, it would kill the consoles.

This will not kill the consoles unless it manages to capture the public's eye so completely that it kills off Nintendo.

Reggie isn't afraid of OnLive. He's right that in, at the moment, it's an untenable service.



shio said:
bdbdbd said:
The biggest problem with OnLive is network latencies along with internet speeds.

The reason why Reggie took a jab on it, is because of the people to who the service is targeted at, plays games that would need the technically most advanced infrastructure (or even more than it can offer today).
If OnLive catches wind, the first to be wiped out would be Steam. As long as Steam stays there, Nintendo has nothing to worry about.

Onlive and Steam aren't mutually exclusive. Both services have their strengths and just like Onlive, time works in favour of Steam. PC games are getting lower and lower requirements, and this trend will keep going as such until the hardware is so cheap that it wouldn't matter the hardware's price, which would cause a severely high penetration potential for Steam. Another plus for steam is that it doesn't require monthly fees.

 

 

god I hate steam..... It has caused me nothing but problems with the games I have on it.... I cant opt out of patches if all im doing is single player, half the time it wont let me play without being connected to the net even for games i bought in box.... IM looking at you empire total war.... it could be a good service, but at present its just another way to puniush people who buy games legitimatly ...

 

 

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I don't see OnLive killing Steam, it´s like: If you can afford/have the hardware, go for Steam, pay for the game and play until your fingers fall; If you can't, you go OnLive and "rent" what you want.

OnLive is more flexible, I believe, and require less initial spendings (hardware), but Steam has that little "don't pay a monthly fee!"

And unless internet speed gets it's booom worldwide, i can't see how a OnLive game could lag less then a Steamed (unless you have some problems, anyway).

Maybe Valve an buy OnLive and make it some kind of "rent-service". xD



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