That's my problem with my PS3 purchase... now that it has more than a couple games I want I have no money

Actually with the Falcon revision it was down to 5%.  I can only imagine that with the new Jaspers it is around 1-3% which is the accepted industry standard.

Actually you are partially correct. The original RROD total system failure rate is below 5%, perhaps close to 3% but unfortunately the other problems, E74, one red ring, disk, NXE and NXE audio patch problems keep the Xbox 360 above the industry standard for problems and nowhere near the PS3 and Wii for reliability.

Have any actual evidence of that?  A wikipedia article that includes a study of just 1040 consoles is not exactly very legitimate, especially considering they likely used varying ages of Xbox 360s and not the newest hardware changes.  The E74, one red ring, and other issues are very few and far between.  I can almost guarantee that the PS3's blu-ray drive issues affect a larger percent than the E74, one red ring, DVD drive, and other issues the 360 has.  Plus, are you really trying to harm Microsofts image with issues after a major system update?  I mean seriously, isn't it Sony who seems to brick a few thousand PS3's every time they release a minor update?

Find me a study where Jaspers are still failing at a higher rate than 1-3% overall and I'll be swayed.

Find my a study that says the 360 is within the standards of its compitition.  Yes M$ has improved RRoD, but they have not eliminated it yet, not to mention the multilply other hardware problems.  They haven't fixed the disc scratching problem either.

You will never get a clear answer to this. 360 fans have realised that this is the thorn in the side of their machine and will stay stum and there is no way MS will release the numbers. I quess at the price of the machine at the moment its not the biggest gamble in the world.

Grampy - and what are the numbers then for the other issues? I noticed you didn't even bother quantifying it. Of course I doubt you could, since you have no idea like anyone else. For all we know, E74, ORR, NXE, and NXE Audio patch put it at a 3-5% composite, as I've rarely heard of 360's being returned for any of those issues.

As for RRoD: The simple fact is that the Falcon chipset, released in October 2007 fixed the vast majority of overheating issues. The Jasper chipset, released October 2008 improved the reliability even further. As far as I've read, Jaspers are the most reliable 360's yet, and face very few system-breaking issues.

If you want the low down on how much more reliable systems are, check the NeoGAF aggregate of system breakdowns. Very few have broken down that are Falcons or Jaspers.

get it anyway when it does rrod u can still rely on the 3 year warranty

BTW, here's the link to the NeoGAF Aggregate:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=148060&page=99

39 Falcons, 0 Jaspers, and 1310 Xenon/Refurbs

That's a pretty big difference, no?

Yes. but it doesnt happen as much as before, but knowing how before it was like a weekly thing XD