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sethnintendo said:
EricHiggin said:

Some on one side see DT as a Fascist and some on the other see BS as a Communist and/or Socialist. They're taking it way to far, and the further apart they get, the harder it becomes to work together until it's flat out impossible. If it keeps up and spreads then down the road it's either break up into smaller countries like Europe has over time, or another civil war. 

Personally I'd suggest if it seems the Dems won't beat Trump next election, then everyone who can should vote Trump. As long as the voting numbers remain fairly close like last time, both sides aren't coming back to center. Another close Trump victory will lead to another 4 years of the same. A YUGE win for Trump will force the Dems to come back and focus more on the center where they would be much better off anyway.

If the Dems look to be able to win, and do, then it's over for the Reps for a lot more than just another 8 years. If Trump of all people can't manage a second term, the right will likely forget about politics for good, which won't be good for anyone.

If you vote for trump then one might question your intellect.  What the fuck has he done for my USA but make us look like shit.  He is like a GWB Jr minus any intellect.  He is stupid as shit.  How the fuck you go bankrupt with Casinos?

If one yet to be nation decided to take on the British Empire in the name of freedom and a new system, many may question their intellect.

How do you have so many financial issue's and disasters if you're the USA?



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sethnintendo said:

Trump is almost up there with Idiocracy stadium crowd level. He just needs to add some monster trucks and illegal immigrant deathmatches for his fanbase.  Throw in a Nascar car doing donuts and a t-shirt cannon and they'll be jizzing in their seats.

I look at your post and I just ask myself: "how was this productive in any way?"



EricHiggin said:

Some on one side see DT as a Fascist and some on the other see BS as a Communist and/or Socialist. They're taking it way to far, and the further apart they get, the harder it becomes to work together until it's flat out impossible. If it keeps up and spreads then down the road it's either break up into smaller countries like Europe has over time, or another civil war. 

Personally I'd suggest if it seems the Dems won't beat Trump next election, then everyone who can should vote Trump. As long as the voting numbers remain fairly close like last time, both sides aren't coming back to center. Another close Trump victory will lead to another 4 years of the same. A YUGE win for Trump will force the Dems to come back and focus more on the center where they would be much better off anyway.

If the Dems look to be able to win, and do, then it's over for the Reps for a lot more than just another 8 years. If Trump of all people can't manage a second term, the right will likely forget about politics for good, which won't be good for anyone.

It doesn't even fucking matter who's at the executive branch because when we have a poster here from the last several posts exhibiting blind hatred who represents the American citizen then it won't amount to much when he's willing to overlook the flaws from candidates from his own preferred side at the end of the day ... 

A lot of people don't realize this but when opposition is trying to get rid of 'stupidity', it's been a recurring pattern to replace it with 'stupidity' as well because no one in their god damned right fucking mind can think straight at all anymore on either side of the fence! Much of the political commentary I see on here isn't meaningful at all since it's all flair over being sound and would be classified as being dogsh*t tier ... 



KLAMarine said:
sethnintendo said:

Trump is almost up there with Idiocracy stadium crowd level. He just needs to add some monster trucks and illegal immigrant deathmatches for his fanbase.  Throw in a Nascar car doing donuts and a t-shirt cannon and they'll be jizzing in their seats.

I look at your post and I just ask myself: "how was this productive in any way?"

I thought it was funny.  Of course each is own to their own opinion.  Face the facts trump is a joke.  He is a b list celebrity that somehow equates to A list to some people.  What has he done?  Run a few casinos into the ground and starred shortly in Home Alone 2 and little rascals?

Oh wait he had that piece of shit show called apprentice.  Yes that's the best he has done.



EricHiggin said:
sethnintendo said:

If you vote for trump then one might question your intellect.  What the fuck has he done for my USA but make us look like shit.  He is like a GWB Jr minus any intellect.  He is stupid as shit.  How the fuck you go bankrupt with Casinos?

If one yet to be nation decided to take on the British Empire in the name of freedom and a new system, many may question their intellect.

How do you have so many financial issue's and disasters if you're the USA?

I'd never compare Trump to Washington.  Washington least had some morals.  Yes we have many financial issues and trump has only blown up the budget to give tax cuts to the rich.  So if you are rich then you'll like trump.



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PortisheadBiscuit said:
Stefan.De.Machtige said:
That's simple. Trump is likeable, interesting and sometimes down-to-earth guy. The democratic hopefuls aren't really any of that.

I'll give you interesting because he's such a nut job. Likable and down to earth? The same guy calling Mexican immigrants rapists?? Pffft

He said some of the people crossing the border illegally are rapists, which isn't untrue. Some does not mean all, not does it mean a majority.

This is a typical media spin, though, and it was the same deal with the "grab her by the _____" stuff. The media claimed he endorsed grabbing women without consent in that line, when they knowingly cut out the beginning of the sentence that set the context ("They let you grab them by the _____").

If you want to detract from the guy, call bullshit on policies. If nothing else, fact check what is being said about him. The Trump Bump makes negative coverage of Trump profitable, so media outlets typically exaggerate losing their minds over him to get clicks.



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Azuren said:
PortisheadBiscuit said:

I'll give you interesting because he's such a nut job. Likable and down to earth? The same guy calling Mexican immigrants rapists?? Pffft

He said some of the people crossing the border illegally are rapists, which isn't untrue. Some does not mean all, not does it mean a majority.

This is a typical media spin, though, and it was the same deal with the "grab her by the _____" stuff. The media claimed he endorsed grabbing women without consent in that line, when they knowingly cut out the beginning of the sentence that set the context ("They let you grab them by the _____").

If you want to detract from the guy, call bullshit on policies. If nothing else, fact check what is being said about him. The Trump Bump makes negative coverage of Trump profitable, so media outlets typically exaggerate losing their minds over him to get clicks.

Trump is above and beyond facts.  This mother fucker believes the media is public enemy number 1.  This mother fucker is public enemy number 1.



My take as a former Democrat voter (Kerry '04, Obama in '08):

It's a combination of Trump himself - the give no fucks, celebrity/president cult of personality type who represents a backlash to ultra Political Correctness and this sort of modern strain of Neo-Puritanism that is running rampant in America (and yet funny enough I think most Americans, even many liberals, are more than sick of)

..coupled with - zero enthusiasm or real substance by most of the Dem candidates. Many are either the lame, old breed of Dems like Biden who's basically a centrist neolib/Corporatist types with no new or exciting ideas, or the nuttier Bernie/Warren new-school types who may have some interesting ideas but have something of a limited appeal with how far left they lean. Most of them seem to be running on a campaign of negativity in one way or another, with a focus on Trump hysteria rather than focusing on actual ideas to move America forward or how to cater to most Americans.

Trump on the other hand DOES present this message (whether true, bullshit, or somewhere in between) and people are drawn to that.

You're not going to garner much support placing so much emphasis on negativity and essentially what amounts to "Just vote for me so this guy who's worse than me doesn't win again!" WHY should we vote for you, specifically? What will you do better as president? I fail to see most of these candidates answering these questions.

So I feel it's just like you've got a couple corporatist neolib Hilary types at the top (Biden and Harris, maybe Booker? namely) who don't generate much excitement, and in the far left camp or newer breed "AOC" school of Democrats, you've got a highly crowded arena of candidates cutting into eachother's bases and pandering to the same audience. And all in this camp seem to be trying to "out liberal" the next guy, as many seem to be adopting increasingly odd and extremist views and policies that are just never going to have a massive appeal in the US.

I DO think Bernie seems to draw a similar amount of enthusiasm as Trump (he's sort of the anti-establishment left candidate toTrump's anti-establishment RIGHT candidate), but the media oddly seems to not care much for him, so he's largely ignored or at least others are given favoritism over him.

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sethnintendo said:
Azuren said:

He said some of the people crossing the border illegally are rapists, which isn't untrue. Some does not mean all, not does it mean a majority.

This is a typical media spin, though, and it was the same deal with the "grab her by the _____" stuff. The media claimed he endorsed grabbing women without consent in that line, when they knowingly cut out the beginning of the sentence that set the context ("They let you grab them by the _____").

If you want to detract from the guy, call bullshit on policies. If nothing else, fact check what is being said about him. The Trump Bump makes negative coverage of Trump profitable, so media outlets typically exaggerate losing their minds over him to get clicks.

Trump is above and beyond facts.  This mother fucker believes the media is public enemy number 1.  This mother fucker is public enemy number 1.

I mean, if you've been following some of the censorship that's  been going on against both the left and the right, you'd agree. The media has lost its mind chasing after stories to remain relevant in a digital age where YouTubers stand to replace it. 



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Azuren said:
sethnintendo said:

Trump is above and beyond facts.  This mother fucker believes the media is public enemy number 1.  This mother fucker is public enemy number 1.

I mean, if you've been following some of the censorship that's  been going on against both the left and the right, you'd agree. The media has lost its mind chasing after stories to remain relevant in a digital age where YouTubers stand to replace it. 

I don't know about you but I'd rather watch CNN than some stupid YouTube channel.  Maybe you have a point but I look to Reuters for news.  Reuters is above and beyond political bs and will only give facts.