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How would you rate Microsoft's E3 conference out of ten?

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How would you rate it out of ten?

1 2 1.79%
 
2 3 2.68%
 
3 8 7.14%
 
4 14 12.50%
 
5 17 15.18%
 
6 26 23.21%
 
7 23 20.54%
 
8 10 8.93%
 
9 4 3.57%
 
10 5 4.46%
 
Total:112
smroadkill15 said:
forevercloud3000 said:
So one part of me wants to give them brownie points for really staying on target, as well as maintaining a steady momentum. Games were the center piece here, as they should be. The features and services all looked pretty solid.

Yet.... pretty much everything shown was multiplatform release, things that were already previously announced, and the few actual big reveals were already spoiled yesterday. Spoilers cannot be helped, I wouldn't hold that entirely against them. Still, those spoiled goodies came down to CGI trailers mostly anyway. Speaking of, that was an issue, so many clips were just fluff piece CGI trailers. I can be relatively ok with such things but only when they at least progress interest in the story of a game in some way.

It's just so sad to say but very little interested me here, even with a hardy 60 games shown. One might bring up MS's new ethos is to be device agnostic, something that can really open up some doors for their business model. While this makes perfect since financially......what is exactly making this a draw to Xbox ecosystem over Playstation/Nintendo? They are seemingly just making it easier and easier to respectfully NOT buy their hardware as everything coming from them is still available elsewhere. GamePass value is growing while Xbox value is shrinking.

This really did feel like the complete admittance of them stepping out of the main console race, even if they casually tipped about Next Gen Hardware.

They just announced the ability to use your console as a server.....PS4 already does this, albeit not the most effective route. You can remotely control and utilize your PS4 now on devices. So forgive me for not being so shocked at this announcement either.

When it comes down to it, this was an earnest attempt for the cards that they have, but ultimately a mediocre showing. 6/10

Xbox is more than a console now, it's a service. MS doesn't need you to buy their system to support them. Some might buy Xbox Gamepass for PC, use project Xcloud on their phone, or use traditional Xbox hardware to play games. It really doesn't matter to them because you are still supporting Xbox as a service. People who enjoy the Xbox console experience will continue to buy consoles. They are not stepping out of the console race, they are simply giving more options on how to play their games. 

As a business decision I understand that fully. This is likely to be the avenue most lucrative for them.

What I am saying though is to the consumers, the necessity of having an Xbox One or getting their Next Gen console is essentially dead, and you are likely better off Doubling down on Nintendo and/or Sony who have unique exclusive experiences with the bonus of getting Game Pass via other devices(PC, Phone, maybe even Switch and larger stretch .....PS5). 

Gamepass was showing tremendous value during their show.....at the expense of ever wanting to buy their console or even just native versions of their games. It is strangely circular.



      

      

      

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Sorry, guys I was working so I couldn't get on time to watch the conference but it seems from the reaction that I'd probably waste my time, so I'll just check the few trailers I'm interested in.
Sad that they can't decide themselves to give more footage with actual gameplay instead of CGI fluff as you'd usually expect from them though ...



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They didn't show much gameplay. I was really expect Gears 5 gameplay of all things. I will give it a 7 while last years E3 was an 8.7 for me. If they would have showed gameplay for Cyberpunk, Gears 5, Outer Worlds, or Borderlands 3, it would've easily been an 8.



HollyGamer said:
BraLoD said:
So E3 has been underwhelming as expected.

Even if Sony Join it wouldn't make any difference, glad they skipped for next gen console reveal. 

I'm wondering if Sony will make an appearance at the AMD conference to help announce Navi, which would also be announcing PS5. Also interesting that MS didn't announce how powerful their system was. Could that mean that Sony got the power crown, again?



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forevercloud3000 said:
smroadkill15 said:

Xbox is more than a console now, it's a service. MS doesn't need you to buy their system to support them. Some might buy Xbox Gamepass for PC, use project Xcloud on their phone, or use traditional Xbox hardware to play games. It really doesn't matter to them because you are still supporting Xbox as a service. People who enjoy the Xbox console experience will continue to buy consoles. They are not stepping out of the console race, they are simply giving more options on how to play their games. 

As a business decision I understand that fully. This is likely to be the avenue most lucrative for them.

What I am saying though is to the consumers, the necessity of having an Xbox One or getting their Next Gen console is essentially dead, and you are likely better off Doubling down on Nintendo and/or Sony who have unique exclusive experiences with the bonus of getting Game Pass via other devices(PC, Phone, maybe even Switch and larger stretch .....PS5). 

Gamepass was showing tremendous value during their show.....at the expense of ever wanting to buy their console or even just native versions of their games. It is strangely circular.

If you have all those different options to play Xbox Games, then there isn't any point in buying an Xbox. I don't have a PC that can play the latest games so my only option to play Xbox Studio Games is to buy a console or stream now. I would rather buy a console in that case. A very large portion of people only play consoles, so if they want to play Xbox games like Halo, they will buy a console. 



B-. Decent presentation, games, and trailers, but lacking in gameplay, reveals, and substance. Flight Sim and Cyberpunk/Keanu were highlights.



thismeintiel said:
HollyGamer said:

Even if Sony Join it wouldn't make any difference, glad they skipped for next gen console reveal. 

I'm wondering if Sony will make an appearance at the AMD conference to help announce Navi, which would also be announcing PS5. Also interesting that MS didn't announce how powerful their system was. Could that mean that Sony got the power crown, again?

I have a hunch both machine will be identical, Microsoft were actually announcing PS5 LOL. It will come down to feature , innovation (VR, controler gimmick) , service, price and first party quality. 

Nothing will change, Next gen battle is just a continuation of this gen battle. All PS fans will just migrate to PS5. That's why Microsoft is now focusing on Xcloud. Their console is an assurance to their old fans. 

EDIT: For appearance on AMD, i am not sure, because AMD will announce some GPU for PC, so i think SOny will keep quiet until next year. 



8/10. Very good, not spectacular. Very safe, as expected. Idk what some people are smoking with this idea that Sony bailing on E3 meant MS should have went balls to the wall blowing their entire next gen xCloud wad.

They showcased 14 of their own games. That’s a ton of Microsoft games. Yet the goal posts are shifting, it’s still not good enough for some because we already knew about some of them, or they aren’t “big enough”.

And what they did show, we know it will all be out by the end of 2020. That’s what I love most about MS E3’s, it’s very rare of them to show something that is years and years off. And what they showed mostly looked great. The Ori boss trailer was fucking amazing. It’s sad that PS4 owners will be able to buy Wasteland 3 on their console but not something beautiful like Ori. Mother fucking Battletoads with 3 player couch co-op... yes please. The greatest racing game ever gets an amazing expansion. Is there anything more Forza Horizon than watching a Lego race car land a huge jump while racing against an old Camaro and Chevelle while a huge truck flies by on a straight away?

Outer Worlds gave me a big Fallout 3 vibe, which can only mean good things. Flight Simulator looked gorgeous and is coming to console. Age of Empires II looked great. They bought Double Fine. An amazing studio. Bleeding Edge is right up my alley as a Battleborn fanboy.

Only potential negative was Wasteland 3, HUGE shift in tone from 2. But if the game plays well, I’m all for it.



HollyGamer said:
thismeintiel said:

I'm wondering if Sony will make an appearance at the AMD conference to help announce Navi, which would also be announcing PS5. Also interesting that MS didn't announce how powerful their system was. Could that mean that Sony got the power crown, again?

I have a hunch both machine will be identical, Microsoft were actually announcing PS5 LOL. It will come down to feature , innovation (VR, controler gimmick) , service, price and first party quality. 

Nothing will change, Next gen battle is just a continuation of this gen battle. All PS fans will just migrate to PS5. That's why Microsoft is now focusing on Xcloud. Their console is an assurance to their old fans. 

EDIT: For appearance on AMD, i am not sure, because AMD will announce some GPU for PC, so i think SOny will keep quiet until next year. 

Yea, my guess it they will both be ~10% of one another. Nothing drastic like the ~40% we saw at the beginning of this gen. Sony will definitely have them beat on VR, especially if the wireless model is an actual thing. I also have a feeling they are more willing to take a larger loss on HW, so will beat them on price, even if it's only by ~$50. And I agree, the focus on xCloud is very telling.

As for AMD, I know it's not guaranteed Sony will be there, but AMD has definitely been talking up their partnership as of late. I remain hopefully optimistic. At worst, it'll still be interesting to finally learn about Navi and we'll just have to wait for PSX to hear about the PS5.