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PS4 and Switch sales comparison: some things to consider

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JRPGfan said:
Shiken said:

I was talking about the console itself.  If we are going to talk about price point, once again MS dropped the ball.  You can claim that had MS priced more competitively and did not make the X1 a PR nightmare that the PS4 would have still sold more, but you have zero evidence to back it up.  For the majority of its first two years it got mostly cross gen games and had no major exclusives until Bloodborne over two years later.  This is something that has been proven true by even Sony fans calling it the indie station 4 and what not.

What is also fact is that before the X1 reveal, the majority of people on the net were more hyped about the next XBox than they were for the PS4.  Once MS botched the reveal, and in turn the launch, it was only then that the tide would eventually shift in favor of the PS4.

I am not saying the PS4 would do worse than PS3, but I am saying the X1 would have heavily cut into its sales.  But due to the competition shooting themselves in the foot, the race was over before it began, making it extremely easy to sell as well as it did.

At the end of the day, Switch is selling great and PS4 is selling great.  All this pointless debate of why or who had it easier is dragging on way longer than it needs to, so unless someone can actually give me decent point worth debating, I am done diving down this rabbit hole any further.

Theres some truth to this.
Old picture showcaseing the fact that Xbox had a slightly stronger 2013-2014:

By today in 2019, the differnce in exclusives though is huge.

Oh absolutely, Sony offers way more now, not even close.  And the quality is way higher as well.  There is a reason my X1 is even less played than my WiiU lol.



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PS4 was $399 it's first three years. Base PS4 now is $299 without a game. PS4 PRO which is the main model now is $399.99.

Also, Wii started better than both, and it fell off like a rock after 2010. With nexgen approaching, I don't see the switch doing crazy numbers once it reaches 65 million,



 

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leo-j said:
Also, Wii started better than both, and it fell off like a rock after 2010. With nexgen approaching, I don't see the switch doing crazy numbers once it reaches 65 million,

Wii was selling to a casual/non-traditional audience so once the novelty wore off sales plummeted. That doesnt apply to Switch since it is selling to a more hardcore/traditional gaming audience.

Next-gen is irrelevant, if PS4/XBO & NSW have had no notable affect on each others sales than there is no reason to believe PS5/XB4 & NSW will all of a sudden start harming each other.

Switch will likely start to decline around the time PS5/XB4 launch but that will be due to a natural sales curve rather than outside factors coming into play.



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zorg1000 said:
leo-j said:
Also, Wii started better than both, and it fell off like a rock after 2010. With nexgen approaching, I don't see the switch doing crazy numbers once it reaches 65 million,

Wii was selling to a casual/non-traditional audience so once the novelty wore off sales plummeted. That doesnt apply to Switch since it is selling to a more hardcore/traditional gaming audience.

Next-gen is irrelevant, if PS4/XBO & NSW have had no notable affect on each others sales than there is no reason to believe PS5/XB4 & NSW will all of a sudden start harming each other.

Switch will likely start to decline around the time PS5/XB4 launch but that will be due to a natural sales curve rather than outside factors coming into play.

Mhm 3 years into the generation, PS4 sales were peaking, and they stayed really high the following year. By the time PS5 comes out it would be switch year 3. That's a pretty pre mature sales decline. 



 

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leo-j said:
zorg1000 said:

Wii was selling to a casual/non-traditional audience so once the novelty wore off sales plummeted. That doesnt apply to Switch since it is selling to a more hardcore/traditional gaming audience.

Next-gen is irrelevant, if PS4/XBO & NSW have had no notable affect on each others sales than there is no reason to believe PS5/XB4 & NSW will all of a sudden start harming each other.

Switch will likely start to decline around the time PS5/XB4 launch but that will be due to a natural sales curve rather than outside factors coming into play.

Mhm 3 years into the generation, PS4 sales were peaking, and they stayed really high the following year. By the time PS5 comes out it would be switch year 3. That's a pretty pre mature sales decline. 

Year 4, Switch released in March 2017, it's in year 3 now. A 3rd year peak followed by a small decline in year 4 is a pretty normal sales curve.



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zorg1000 said:
leo-j said:

Mhm 3 years into the generation, PS4 sales were peaking, and they stayed really high the following year. By the time PS5 comes out it would be switch year 3. That's a pretty pre mature sales decline. 

Year 4, Switch released in March 2017, it's in year 3 now. A 3rd year peak followed by a small decline in year 4 is a pretty normal sales curve.

2013 2014 2015 2016 2017(peak year 5) 2018(sustained peak) year 6

ps4 peaked year 5/6 

so switch peaking in year 4 is pre mature. 



 

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leo-j said:
zorg1000 said:

Year 4, Switch released in March 2017, it's in year 3 now. A 3rd year peak followed by a small decline in year 4 is a pretty normal sales curve.

2013 2014 2015 2016 2017(peak year 5) 2018(sustained peak) year 6

ps4 peaked year 5/6 

so switch peaking in year 4 is pre mature. 

It released in mid-November so counting 2013 as year 1 makes literally no sense at all. Also 2018 had a 10% decline, that's not "sustaining its peak", thats a decline.

Besides, who cares when PS4 peaked? It had a later than normal peak, good for it but peaking in year 3 or 4 has been a very common thing for consoles.

What are you getting out of making nonsense arguments?



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leo-j said:
PS4 was $399 it's first three years. Base PS4 now is $299 without a game. PS4 PRO which is the main model now is $399.99.

Also, Wii started better than both, and it fell off like a rock after 2010. With nexgen approaching, I don't see the switch doing crazy numbers once it reaches 65 million,

"PS4 was $399 it's first three years"

Yes and not up against considerable competition.



KLAMarine said:
Azuren said:
It's true the PS4 has a Pro model, which could sell to current PS4 owners, but the Switch offers a different kind of sales advantage to Nintendo.

Consider if you will my nephews. They share between them an Xbox 360, a PS3, and a PS4. Then they each have a Switch. Households where consoles are shared between kids are more likely to have multiple Switches than they are multiple PS4s due to the Switch's portable nature.

Yes, it's true that Switch's mobility provides incentive to own more than one but I will also say that its function as a console provides incentive not to own more than one. A Switch can be played by more than one person, a 3DS cannot.

I'll give you there's less incentive to own multiple than, say, a 3DS. But like you said, there's still more incentive to own multiple than a PS4. Anecdotally, when I was doing Christmas shopping for my nephews the year we got them their Switches I initially insisted on one for them to share. When my mom found out what the Switch was, my explanations didn't matter. To her, it was a handheld that docked to a TV, and as such each of them needed one for themselves.



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Azuren said:
KLAMarine said:

Yes, it's true that Switch's mobility provides incentive to own more than one but I will also say that its function as a console provides incentive not to own more than one. A Switch can be played by more than one person, a 3DS cannot.

I'll give you there's less incentive to own multiple than, say, a 3DS. But like you said, there's still more incentive to own multiple than a PS4. Anecdotally, when I was doing Christmas shopping for my nephews the year we got them their Switches I initially insisted on one for them to share. When my mom found out what the Switch was, my explanations didn't matter. To her, it was a handheld that docked to a TV, and as such each of them needed one for themselves.

I agree with you. If a 3DS is a 1 in the "own more than one" factor, a Switch is a .5 and a PS4 is a 0... If we were to assign numbers to this.