You are pretty bitter and your comments show the disdain towards the progressive part. But the central thing of the progressives is, that they want actual improvements for the lifes of the common people. And if a conservative democrat is not bringing these improvements, progressive often asks how these democrats are better than republicans. It's as simple as that. What you say and what many of these conservative democrats are saying is that progressive prefer republicans over democrats. And that's simply not the case.

Hey, at least I don't have an unexplainable bitterness towards Democrats. Do you even vote?

Ask Virginia and ask New York post-2018 if the party isn't making a difference in the people's lives now that they have full control of the State Government.

I'm just pointing out, going to bed with Fox News to bash the Democrats is the most short sighted, ridiculous thing a leftist can do.

Hey, at least I don't have an unexplainable bitterness towards Democrats. Do you even vote?

Ask Virginia and ask New York post-2018 if the party isn't making a difference in the people's lives now that they have full control of the State Government.

I'm just pointing out, going to bed with Fox News to bash the Democrats is the most short sighted, ridiculous thing a leftist can do.

I thought you were done with this thread. Your hate for Democrats that actually want to improve the lives of ordinary people is unwanted. But go head keep pushing your contemptuous conspiracy theory that progressives prefer Republicans and hate Democrats.

If you truly, really believe the best way to achieve your progressive goals and help the most people is to go on Fox News and slam the Democrats and the DNC, then I don't know what to tell you.

And if you think for one second they will give you the same platform and respect during the general, you're falling for their game too.

I believe if you have a honest, truthful message that resonates and is based in facts then I think you're entitled to spread it. Which is exactly what what I just did a few moments ago by canvassing for Bernie. Healthcare is a human right, we need to get big money out of politics to give the voiceless a voice and we need a green new deal. That's what I and millions of disenfranchised Americans believe.

If you believe something different, if you're a proud moderate, then fight for the votes and may the best policies win.

I didn't start debating policy. I think everyone's positions here are clear. I also have made it clear numerous times I intend to vote for Sanders in the general.

It just sickens me seeing validation for a News Network that has been a relentless propaganda arm for the Republican party. That was the original point I made.

Fox News is giving a platform to these guests because they are bashing the Democratic party. They are not doing so to inform people of different viewpoints (otherwise, Fox News wouldn't have transformed AOC in their personal arch-vilain). Their main goal is to create division in the party, and further the Republican agenda. What Mnementh is doing is exactly what they want.

So yes, I do have a major problem if people are going to validate the Network. And it is nowhere near an isolated incident.

I didn't start debating policy. I think everyone's positions here are clear. I also have made it clear numerous times I intend to vote for Sanders in the general.

It just sickens me seeing validation for a News Network that has been a relentless propaganda arm for the Republican party. That was the original point I made.

Fox News is giving a platform to these guests because they are bashing the Democratic party. They are not doing so to inform people of different viewpoints (otherwise, Fox News wouldn't have transformed AOC in their personal arch-vilain). Their main goal is to create division in the party, and further the Republican agenda. What Mnementh is doing is exactly what they want.

So yes, I do have a major problem if people are going to validate the Network. And it is nowhere near an isolated incident.

For you it is about a fight between good and evil, democrats and republicans, MSNBC and Fox News. But for the poor people that makes in most cases not much of a difference. Yes Fox News denies the reality of the working class and poor people, but so does MSNBC.

In his novel 1984 author George Orwell described a perpetual war between the superpowers. But that didn't matter for theordinary people, as all superpowers acted te same towards their people. It was about distracting the people from improving their situation. For you going on Fox News is akin to treason. But for Nomiki Konst and other progressives it matters to be heard at all, because the 'democratic' cable news will not give her the opportunity to voice her opinions. If you see that, that she is taking the opportunity to be heard as some sort of treason, you fall into the trap that is designed to keep progressives silent.

And no, I don't think democrats are generally bad or something. The party consists of many people of different political stances. But both parties are under the influence of the rich and powerful, and progressive have to struggle every day against the forces that try to keep them contained. That's why it doesn't matter so much if you talk to Fox News or MSNBC or CNN, if you given the opportunity, you take it.

Which also means: if media close to democrats would give progressive a platform more regularly, than they wouldn't have to talk with Fox.