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Angelv577 said:
Even if ps5 lose all his exclusives to PC, I will still get ps5 over PC. PC isn't and will never be an option for me. I ain't building a PC nor spend a lot of money to get a decent pc. If I get a switch, it will be as a secondary console while ps5 will be my main console. Also streaming isn't an option either. I rather stay retro with older consoles for the rest of my gaming life.

You, me and millions.

We're living in a age where multiple devices for multiple things are increasing and it doesn't bother the consumers. I hear that everything would converge to PCs since the 00's. Guess what. It didn't. A lot of portable devices have converged to the smartphones, but still we have lots of smart devices on our houses. The gaming console is just another one, and inexpensive.

Besides, it's true that streaming and cloud computing is coming so we can say that lots of things will converge to the cloud and games could be streamed right to our TVs. But when the time comes, Sony and others will get to it. The Playstation 7 could be just a small box to plug to the TV or you can just get Playstation 7 built in on a new Sony TV.

About all the Microsoft thing that is going on, it doesn't seem to me that Microsoft is converging to cloud because they're ahead in technology. The reason is that XBox is failing and to be honest Microsoft corporation isn't very excited about Xbox division since the new president took over. Microsoft is the one that is having a hard time convincing consumers to buy their console for their exclusives and that's why they're bringing their content to other devices. Plus, they've got Win 10 and when they share Xbox content with Win 10, Microsoft still makes money. Sony and Nintendo aren't walking on Microsoft shoes.



PLAYING: Horizon Zero Dawn (PS4), For Honor (PS4)

My Total Sales prediction for PS4 by the end of 2021: 110m+

When PS4 will hit 100m consoles sold: Before Christmas 2019

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0D0 said:
 
Chazore said:

I wouldn't make a bold claim like that, if you're willing to understand that the PC userbase greatly outnumbers the console one, even in terms of "casual" users, and even then, the mobile market, which is catching up in terms of technological prowess, massively outnumbers console casuals as well. You'd understand that your market is the actual minority one. 

I don't know if it really outnumbers console users, but many AAA games are still coming for consoles first. That must mean something.

Not sure why you didn't reply to the previous quote, and instead went for an older one.

They do in actuality, and PC still gets AAA games as well, first or second, but I wouldn't put "we get it first" as something that magically sways and does away with an entire platform. That makes for a rather weak argument if that's what you're aiming for.



                                       

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Angelv577 said:
Even if ps5 lose all his exclusives to PC, I will still get ps5 over PC. PC isn't and will never be an option for me. I ain't building a PC nor spend a lot of money to get a decent pc. If I get a switch, it will be as a secondary console while ps5 will be my main console. Also streaming isn't an option either. I rather stay retro with older consoles for the rest of my gaming life.

You, me and millions.

We're living in a age where multiple devices for multiple things are increasing and it doesn't bother the consumers. I hear that everything would converge to PCs since the 00's. Guess what. It didn't. A lot of portable devices have converged to the smartphones, but still we have lots of smart devices on our houses. The gaming console is just another one, and inexpensive.

Besides, it's true that streaming and cloud computing is coming so we can say that lots of things will converge to the cloud and games could be streamed right to our TVs. But when the time comes, Sony and others will get to it. The Playstation 7 could be just a small box to plug to the TV or you can just get Playstation 7 built in on a new Sony TV.

About all the Microsoft thing that is going on, it doesn't seem to me that Microsoft is converging to cloud because they're ahead in technology. The reason is that XBox is failing and to be honest Microsoft corporation isn't very excited about Xbox division since the new president took over. Microsoft is the one that is having a hard time convincing consumers to buy their console for their exclusives and that's why they're bringing their content to other devices. Plus, they've got Win 10 and when they share Xbox content with Win 10, Microsoft still makes money. Sony and Nintendo aren't walking on Microsoft shoes.

I couldn't agree more.



0D0 said:

I don't know if it really outnumbers console users, but many AAA games are still coming for consoles first. That must mean something.

"many" = a very small fraction



0D0 said:

Can I pick up a gaming laptop for $300 that runs Read Dead Redemption 2 without having to bother with configuration at all?

Eventually, yes. Just wait for hardware to catch up.
Or simply spend more and potentially outlive multiple console generations, enjoy cheaper games, free online and so on, choice is yours.

0D0 said:

Besides even though consoles have updates it's still far way from being like a PC. I can pick up a console and a game on a disc, insert on my console and boom the game works, no setup, no config. The controller is boxed, the console easily connects to my TV and it all works like a smartphone. I don't even need to know about OS.

Rubbish.
I do own consoles as well you know.

And I can assure you that the update/install times for consoles is absolutely terrible compared to my PC's.



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Pemalite said:
0D0 said:

Can I pick up a gaming laptop for $300 that runs Read Dead Redemption 2 without having to bother with configuration at all?

Eventually, yes. Just wait for hardware to catch up.
Or simply spend more and potentially outlive multiple console generations, enjoy cheaper games, free online and so on, choice is yours.

0D0 said:

Besides even though consoles have updates it's still far way from being like a PC. I can pick up a console and a game on a disc, insert on my console and boom the game works, no setup, no config. The controller is boxed, the console easily connects to my TV and it all works like a smartphone. I don't even need to know about OS.

Rubbish.
I do own consoles as well you know.

And I can assure you that the update/install times for consoles is absolutely terrible compared to my PC's.

So, eventually, yes. You're talking about the future.

It's not rubbish. It's crystal clear that consoles are far easier to deal than PCs.



PLAYING: Horizon Zero Dawn (PS4), For Honor (PS4)

My Total Sales prediction for PS4 by the end of 2021: 110m+

When PS4 will hit 100m consoles sold: Before Christmas 2019

There were three ravens sat on a tree / They were as blacke as they might be / The one of them said to his mate, Where shall we our breakfast take?


Because I want to play all the quality PS5 exclusives I know it will have and potentially XB2 exclusives with all their announced studio purchases. That's my reason why I want to buy next gen



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One big problem with PC gaming though is that a lot of games ported to it don't run very well and sometimes the solutions needed to get them to run aren't worth it or can screw up things on your PC. Mods are great but can also have the same double-edge sword issues. I think updates from Microsoft may have "readjusted" some settings I made in the past too for mods to run.

The thing about consoles is that they're uniform and much easier to troubleshoot with known issues. There's just a sense of no fuss and plug and play with peace of mind you can't always get on PC. Also the ease of access to the internet on PC compared to consoles is a huge distraction and many times will win over wanting to play games on PC, so you forget why you wanted to sit down and enjoy a game in the first place.



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0D0 said:

So, eventually, yes. You're talking about the future.

Or buy second hand.

0D0 said:

It's not rubbish. It's crystal clear that consoles are far easier to deal than PCs.

Considering I can compare both in real time... I still think this is rubbish.
Just yesterday I turned my Xbox One X on, was greeted with a system update that took about 20 minutes.
Then I went to play Halo Wars 2... And had about 45GB worth of updates... Then you have the slow load/boot/install times to contend with as well.

It was easier to turn it all off and fire up the PC instead... Because even if I had updates, I can just say "no" and run my games anyway and deal with it later.

Consoles UI is also allot slower and clunkier on PC... Many games exhibit the same bugs and problems found on the PC version... I mean, Skyrim on the Playstation 3 is a prime example, on PC you can just tweak/mod the game and get it running flawlessly, on the Playstation 3 the issues were never fully fixed were they? ;)

And then you have general support... Things like 1440P, 5k, ultra wide etc' support are important. It took Microsoft months and months and months after they made the initial promise for 1440P support... And I am pretty sure the Playstation 4 Pro still doesn't support it. Yeah. Not good.

I could go on... But I think you get the point now. Consoles aren't as convenient as you think they are, not anymore, long gone are the days when you could drop a disk/cart in and play a game straight away.



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Pemalite said:

Eventually, yes. Just wait for hardware to catch up.
Or simply spend more and potentially outlive multiple console generations, enjoy cheaper games, free online and so on, choice is yours.

Rubbish.
I do own consoles as well you know.

And I can assure you that the update/install times for consoles is absolutely terrible compared to my PC's.

So, eventually, yes. You're talking about the future.

It's not rubbish. It's crystal clear that consoles are far easier to deal than PCs.

You press one button, log in, then click on the game you want to play.  On console, you press one button, log in, then scroll to the game you want to play, and press a button.   And btw, my PS4s (pro and base) downloads everything slower than both of my PS3s.  The issue is that you do not realize how far pc gaming has come over the past few years.  I have both, and use both regularly, but I'm not going to be silly enough to say consoles are better.  They have their perks, but not outright better.  I've had plenty of shutdown errors on PS4 this generation, too.  More-so than PC.