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The_Liquid_Laser said:
Dr.Vita said:

No, this forum is Nintendo dominated. There are more Nintendo topics/threads in the forum and Nintendo threads get way more replies. Most of the thread polls confirm the same thing.

I think in general that Nintendo fans (compared to Playstation and Xbox fans) are the most active users in internet forums. And on this site it is really extreme. I guess that Nintendo fans are the oldest gamers among the big three and therefore participate more on these internet gaming forums.

Just out of interest, is ResetEra more balanced with the fanbases?

Well, I think the bold is true.  But about half of the threads and replies are people hating on Nintendo.  It is true that people talk about Nintendo more, but it could be positive or negative.

You are right that there are always people who hate Nintendo in some of the Nintendo threads but most of the time it's only 1 or 2 posts that are about hating Nintendo and they usually get 20-30 replies. So it's not like half of the thread is about people hating on Nintendo it's more like half of the thread is the Nintendo community bashing together the 1-2 Nintendo hate posts.

And there are always people who hate in one community, there are also people who do the same thing in Playstation threads. But I guess since you mostly play on Nintendo you will not realize that and only perceive the Nintendo hate posts.

Mnementh said:
theRepublic said:
I don't see a problem with the way the scores add up to create the final list. It is what it is. Maybe it needs more promotion to get more votes. That could help the diversity.

Trying to change the scoring sounds like a recipe for very weird results to come out that doesn't really align with the voting.

True. Whatever we do, we can't erase the Playstation/Nintendo-bias of this community anyways. Barely any Xbox, PC-gamers or Retro-gamers (besides Nintendo/Playstation retro), basically non-existant mobile or MMO-gamers. This diversity we don't get in any case.

True words but it should also be noted that the Nintendo bias is way bigger than the Playstation bias on this site.



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Mnementh said:
theRepublic said:
I don't see a problem with the way the scores add up to create the final list. It is what it is. Maybe it needs more promotion to get more votes. That could help the diversity.

Trying to change the scoring sounds like a recipe for very weird results to come out that doesn't really align with the voting.

True. Whatever we do, we can't erase the Playstation/Nintendo-bias of this community anyways. Barely any Xbox, PC-gamers or Retro-gamers (besides Nintendo/Playstation retro), basically non-existant mobile or MMO-gamers. This diversity we don't get in any case.

The problem I have with Xbox and PC games is that they just don't hold up all that well in retrospect. Ask me to play Pikmin 2, and I'm all for it. Ask me to go back to Civ 4? Not in a million years. That game is just so clunky even by 2004 standards. Morrowwind, and Oblivion (even though it did come to PS3) are two more examples. Those games have both aged hilariously badly. The original Half Life, and Witcher are pretty much unplayable, even when compared to contemporary games like Halo (for Half LIfe), and Fable II (for the Witcher). 



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What an awful lot of work you put into this. Really interesting read, thanks.

I did find it a tad disappointing to see games getting in the top 100 with just a handful of votes when comparing to how things have been in previous years, but I guess that's just the state of VGC these days! At least a couple of my games got in the top 20!

I really need to shake up my list next year. I mostly just re-used last year's and forgot to add a lot of stuff.



Cerebralbore101 said:
Mnementh said:

True. Whatever we do, we can't erase the Playstation/Nintendo-bias of this community anyways. Barely any Xbox, PC-gamers or Retro-gamers (besides Nintendo/Playstation retro), basically non-existant mobile or MMO-gamers. This diversity we don't get in any case.

The problem I have with Xbox and PC games is that they just don't hold up all that well in retrospect. Ask me to play Pikmin 2, and I'm all for it. Ask me to go back to Civ 4? Not in a million years. That game is just so clunky even by 2004 standards. Morrowwind, and Oblivion (even though it did come to PS3) are two more examples. Those games have both aged hilariously badly. The original Half Life, and Witcher are pretty much unplayable, even when compared to contemporary games like Halo (for Half LIfe), and Fable II (for the Witcher). 

Depends on the game.

Civ 3 holds up for me quite well, Smash bros melee holds up, but ask me to play OG Smash bros instead, no thanks.



Farsala said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

The problem I have with Xbox and PC games is that they just don't hold up all that well in retrospect. Ask me to play Pikmin 2, and I'm all for it. Ask me to go back to Civ 4? Not in a million years. That game is just so clunky even by 2004 standards. Morrowwind, and Oblivion (even though it did come to PS3) are two more examples. Those games have both aged hilariously badly. The original Half Life, and Witcher are pretty much unplayable, even when compared to contemporary games like Halo (for Half LIfe), and Fable II (for the Witcher). 

Depends on the game.

Civ 3 holds up for me quite well, Smash bros melee holds up, but ask me to play OG Smash bros instead, no thanks.

Yeah I don't understand how anybody could vote for OG Smash over Melee. That, and Goldeneye getting a spot in the top 100 gave me an aneurysm.  



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Cerebralbore101 said:
Farsala said:

Depends on the game.

Civ 3 holds up for me quite well, Smash bros melee holds up, but ask me to play OG Smash bros instead, no thanks.

Yeah I don't understand how anybody could vote for OG Smash over Melee. That, and Goldeneye getting a spot in the top 100 gave me an aneurysm.  

You shouldn't be getting an aneurysm over people sharing their opinions about which games they like. For many people, making a list of their 50 favorite ever means not only games that are "objectively" good, but more importantly games that have meant something to them or bring special memories. I don't think anyone's gonna debate that Melee is a better game than Smash 64, but people have different experiences and that's what they're gonna give value to.



mZuzek said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

Yeah I don't understand how anybody could vote for OG Smash over Melee. That, and Goldeneye getting a spot in the top 100 gave me an aneurysm.  

You shouldn't be getting an aneurysm over people sharing their opinions about which games they like. For many people, making a list of their 50 favorite ever means not only games that are "objectively" good, but more importantly games that have meant something to them or bring special memories. I don't think anyone's gonna debate that Melee is a better game than Smash 64, but people have different experiences and that's what they're gonna give value to.

Let me rephrase that. I don't understand how anybody could vote for OG Smash over Melee, and Goldeneye getting a spot in the top 100 gave me an aneurysm. Smash 64 is still a fun game IMO, just not the best in the series. Goldeneye on the other hand is dated. 

Also, I'm only about half joking with the aneurysm bit. But oh well. 

And yeah, people will list their favorite games based on what they got the most playtime with, or remember best. Or at least some people will. I was just trying to explain my theory as to why PC/Xbox games rarely make the list despite being games that broke a ton of ground when they came out. 



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Dr.Vita said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

Well, I think the bold is true.  But about half of the threads and replies are people hating on Nintendo.  It is true that people talk about Nintendo more, but it could be positive or negative.

You are right that there are always people who hate Nintendo in some of the Nintendo threads but most of the time it's only 1 or 2 posts that are about hating Nintendo and they usually get 20-30 replies. So it's not like half of the thread is about people hating on Nintendo it's more like half of the thread is the Nintendo community bashing together the 1-2 Nintendo hate posts.

And there are always people who hate in one community, there are also people who do the same thing in Playstation threads. But I guess since you mostly play on Nintendo you will not realize that and only perceive the Nintendo hate posts.

What makes you think I mostly play on Nintendo?  These are the platforms where my top 50 games came from.  They are actually all over the place, but my top console is the PS2.

Breakdown of platforms
(if its on 2 platforms I give it 1/2 a point)

Atari 2600 - 1
NES - 5.5
Genesis - 3.5
SNES - 3.5
PS1 - 3.5
PS2 - 6
Wii - 1
PS3 - 5.5
Wii U - 2
PS4 - 0.5
GBA - 3
Switch - 2
Arcade - 5
Mobile - 1
PC - 7



The_Liquid_Laser said:
Dr.Vita said:

You are right that there are always people who hate Nintendo in some of the Nintendo threads but most of the time it's only 1 or 2 posts that are about hating Nintendo and they usually get 20-30 replies. So it's not like half of the thread is about people hating on Nintendo it's more like half of the thread is the Nintendo community bashing together the 1-2 Nintendo hate posts.

And there are always people who hate in one community, there are also people who do the same thing in Playstation threads. But I guess since you mostly play on Nintendo you will not realize that and only perceive the Nintendo hate posts.

What makes you think I mostly play on Nintendo?

You disagreed with him.



Dr.Vita said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

Well, I think the bold is true.  But about half of the threads and replies are people hating on Nintendo.  It is true that people talk about Nintendo more, but it could be positive or negative.

You are right that there are always people who hate Nintendo in some of the Nintendo threads but most of the time it's only 1 or 2 posts that are about hating Nintendo and they usually get 20-30 replies. So it's not like half of the thread is about people hating on Nintendo it's more like half of the thread is the Nintendo community bashing together the 1-2 Nintendo hate posts.

And there are always people who hate in one community, there are also people who do the same thing in Playstation threads. But I guess since you mostly play on Nintendo you will not realize that and only perceive the Nintendo hate posts.

Mnementh said:

True. Whatever we do, we can't erase the Playstation/Nintendo-bias of this community anyways. Barely any Xbox, PC-gamers or Retro-gamers (besides Nintendo/Playstation retro), basically non-existant mobile or MMO-gamers. This diversity we don't get in any case.

True words but it should also be noted that the Nintendo bias is way bigger than the Playstation bias on this site.

Well, if you look at it, without the hate posts in the first place (or just negatively colored posts) you would've 20-30 replies in the thread less. Which often amounts to basically nothing. And as far as I can see, the PS-posts usually stay clear of Nintendo-fans answers completely. Which brings less posts in the end. So if you want PS-threads to flourish more on this site, than post negative replies in PS-threads so the threads stay active and are visible in the hot topics.

I have difficulties to quantify the Nintendo or PS-bias. Looking at the most active users, I don't think there is much advantage to one side or another. But whatever. That we basically only have two of potentially seven important gaming  fanbases sucks.



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