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Forums - Sales Discussion - Japan Sales Week 51 Media Create/Famitsu/Dengeki - December 17-23, 2018

Bofferbrauer2 on 27 December 2018
Kerotan said:
Miyamotoo said:

There is no point to mention that because 3DS start selling great moment got huge price cut, and no, 3DS wouldn't be sold extremely well without price cut, $250 for handheld was too much in any case.

Didn't the price cut coincide with a huge game release followed by another big game soon after? 

Just checked and nope. The cut was on week to August 14, and except a Shin Megami Tensei early September and and Senran Kagura late September, the lineup was really bare of anything even just a little notable (meaning over 30k FW sales) until Super Mario 3D Land early November. However, even though there was a big game drought, the sales were a lot higher than they were before the cut. In other words, the cut made the sales, not any new games.

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tak13 on 27 December 2018
curl-6 said:
tak13 said:

I'm looking forward to the NS lite release! 

While hardware revisions for the NS are so obvious and advisable a move as to be basically a foregone conclusion unless Nintendo's run by monkeys, if you're holding out hope for a purely portable version, you may be disappointed as that would rather defeat the central premise of the "Switch". Altering the size of the unit too much would disrupt compatibility with the dock and Joycons.

No, I want a hybrid NS lite with optional dock/controller, switch that can't switch is not a switch.

However, in order NS lite to cost 199$, joycons must be ditched, each add 45$ to the price, and I don't feel confident that this will happen.

What do you propose or theorize? 



curl-6 on 27 December 2018
tak13 said:
curl-6 said:

While hardware revisions for the NS are so obvious and advisable a move as to be basically a foregone conclusion unless Nintendo's run by monkeys, if you're holding out hope for a purely portable version, you may be disappointed as that would rather defeat the central premise of the "Switch". Altering the size of the unit too much would disrupt compatibility with the dock and Joycons.

No, I want a hybrid NS lite with optional dock/controller, switch that can't switch is not a switch.

However, in order NS lite to cost 199$, joycons must be ditched, each add 45$ to the price, and I don't feel confident that this will happen.

What do you propose or theorize? 

If I had to guess I'd say the most likely Switch revision is a Deluxe/XL type deal with a bigger/better quality screen.

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animegaming on 27 December 2018
tak13 said:
curl-6 said:

While hardware revisions for the NS are so obvious and advisable a move as to be basically a foregone conclusion unless Nintendo's run by monkeys, if you're holding out hope for a purely portable version, you may be disappointed as that would rather defeat the central premise of the "Switch". Altering the size of the unit too much would disrupt compatibility with the dock and Joycons.

No, I want a hybrid NS lite with optional dock/controller, switch that can't switch is not a switch.

However, in order NS lite to cost 199$, joycons must be ditched, each add 45$ to the price, and I don't feel confident that this will happen.

What do you propose or theorize? 

Considering Nintendo has released games like Pokemon Let's Go, Super Mario Party, Labo, and even third parties like Square Enix with The World Ends With You, ditching the joy cons is not an option. This aint even a case like the 2DS not having 3D, since 3D was only optional for both gamers and developers. The Joy-Cons are a massive part of the Switch to the point that they are need for some games in docked mode. 

And I doubt a Switch Lite is gonna cost 200 dollars more like 250 instead, if anything the dock would likely go before the joycons to make 200 dollars since it isn't as important as the joy cons. 



animegaming on 27 December 2018
curl-6 said:
tak13 said:

No, I want a hybrid NS lite with optional dock/controller, switch that can't switch is not a switch.

However, in order NS lite to cost 199$, joycons must be ditched, each add 45$ to the price, and I don't feel confident that this will happen.

What do you propose or theorize? 

If I had to guess I'd say the most likely Switch revision is a Deluxe/XL type deal with a bigger/better quality screen.

Plus I imagine it would get some QoL improvements, such as a revised dock to avoid scratching the screen, a home button on the tablet itself, bluetooth support, built in lab adapter, etc. I doubt Nintendo will removed anything from the Switch just make some tweaks. 



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Megiddo on 27 December 2018
Bofferbrauer2 said:
Kerotan said:

Didn't the price cut coincide with a huge game release followed by another big game soon after? 

Just checked and nope. The cut was on week to August 14, and except a Shin Megami Tensei early September and and Senran Kagura late September, the lineup was really bare of anything even just a little notable (meaning over 30k FW sales) until Super Mario 3D Land early November. However, even though there was a big game drought, the sales were a lot higher than they were before the cut. In other words, the cut made the sales, not any new games.

How much higher? I'm curious to see the weekly sales in the first 2 months after the price cut since as you said there weren't any big releases at the time.



curl-6 on 27 December 2018
animegaming said:
curl-6 said:

If I had to guess I'd say the most likely Switch revision is a Deluxe/XL type deal with a bigger/better quality screen.

Plus I imagine it would get some QoL improvements, such as a revised dock to avoid scratching the screen, a home button on the tablet itself, bluetooth support, built in lab adapter, etc. I doubt Nintendo will removed anything from the Switch just make some tweaks. 

Another obvious area for improvement is internal memory. 32GB is just so little these days. Surely it can't be too expensive to stick at least 64GB in a Switch XL/Deluxe?



zorg1000 on 27 December 2018
Megiddo said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

Just checked and nope. The cut was on week to August 14, and except a Shin Megami Tensei early September and and Senran Kagura late September, the lineup was really bare of anything even just a little notable (meaning over 30k FW sales) until Super Mario 3D Land early November. However, even though there was a big game drought, the sales were a lot higher than they were before the cut. In other words, the cut made the sales, not any new games.

How much higher? I'm curious to see the weekly sales in the first 2 months after the price cut since as you said there weren't any big releases at the time.

It averaged 28k/week from week 14-30 and averaged 60k/week from week 34-43.

I didnt include weeks 31-33 because that is the week before price cut (huge drop, only 4k) and the first 2 weeks of price cut (196k &105k)



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

zorg1000 on 27 December 2018

I'll also break it down by month

February-375k
March-461k
April-112k
May-89k
June-151k
July-118k
August-366k
September-292k
October-247k
November-467k
December-1604k



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

Kerotan on 28 December 2018
tak13 said:
curl-6 said:

Already read it. You've always been a fanatical advocate for the 3DS and I think you just don't like that it's dying and that the Switch is likely to go on to be much more successful than it.

I apologize for the''shut up".

So, I know something better than you or other people. 

Keep provoking me...

We're in media create thread ( not widely but merely successful then). 

Show me something that I have written in that thread   which really proves what you accuse me for.

I know the lads are annoying you, but I just want to say i agree with you. Travelling atm so don't have time to say more then that.