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I understand your sadness. Unfortunately, I do not see how things will improve in the near future. All I can say is that you are not alone. Many people are disturbed by events happening in the world, myself included.



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Masked_Muchaco said:
Here in Brazil we always end up having to choose between the devil and the antichrist, because for some stupid reason the majority of the population only wants to vote for the candidates that represent the far left and right, with the rest of the candidates being labeled as weak and/or unfit to be president.

It's so disheartening that Marina only got 1% of the votes. And just because she's not an extremist. That's so frustrating.



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Masked_Muchaco said:
Politics in Brazil are a self fulfilling prophecy, the people here don't vote for the less popular candidates because they don't think they have a chance to win, and so almost no one votes for them and we end up with the worst two options possible.

That's what IBOPE does to people's heads...



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I'm an American, so I don't really know a lot about what's going on in Brazil, but I read the OP's post and just don't get it. If what you're saying is true, about him being homophobic, sexist, etcetera, then why did 62% of people in your town vote for him? Perhaps you are being fed biased information and once you open your mind to the situation as a whole you'll understand why the majority of your peers are giving him their vote.



I feel you. While it's not that bad here in germany, I certainly feel that things are going the wrong way. Nationalists and the like are on the rise and it scares the shit out of me. I really thought we were over shit like that, but it just keeps coming back. People just don't learn from history.

I don't know what to say. I just really hope that things get better soon and people come to their senses.



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RaptorChrist said: 
I'm an American, so I don't really know a lot about what's going on in Brazil, but I read the OP's post and just don't get it. If what you're saying is true, about him being homophobic, sexist, etcetera, then why did 62% of people in your town vote for him? Perhaps you are being fed biased information and once you open your mind to the situation as a whole you'll understand why the majority of your peers are giving him their vote.

I'm quoting my post with quotes directly from Bolsonaro below. You can take your own conclusions in regards to him being homophobic, sexist, etc. or not. People who vote for him usually do that because:

1) They're tired of corruption, and Bolsonaro presents himself as totally against that (despite him not being exactly incorrupt); or

2) They think Bolsonaro cares a lot about security, and Brazil is getting increasingly violent every year (despite him working 27 years in Congress and not proposing a single law regarding security); or

3) They think the left is 100% communist, and they're worried that communism will take over Brazil (despite the only communist party running for president this year, PSTU, getting 0.05% of the votes, only 55 thousand), or 

4) They're as prejudiced as him and want someone to stanch progress in social regards, in order to maintain the "values of the traditional Brazilian family".

Brazilians are fed up with politicians, and I think I can speak for every single Brazilian in that one. And Bolsonaro presents himself as an alternative, a radical change. That's why 62% of people voted for him in the OP's city.

LuccaCardoso1 said:
Amnesia said:
"He's racist, homophobic, sexist, highly religious,"

I could not explain that shortly, even heavily with my english, but when I read such a thing, I immediately trust the person responding to this description.
I am french, so I am vaccinated against this kind of description. These are exactly the adjective that we use to discredite someone. You just forgot "antisemit" and we are complete.

Bolsonaro is so blatantly racist, homophobic, sexist and highly religious that it's really hard to believe if you're an outsider. It's not one of those cases of people overexaggerating or calling the person racist, homophobic and sexist just because they don't like them. I'll give you a few examples:

Racism - "I was at a quilombo (places previously inhabited by slaves escaping, but now inhabited by their descendants). The slightest afro-descendant weighed 7 arrobas (230 pounds, measurement used to weigh cattle). They don't do anything. I don't think they even serve for procreation anymore."

Racism - "Has anyone ever seen any Japanese begging? It's a race that has shame in its face."

Racism - When asked by Preta Gil, a black woman, about what he'd do if a son of his fell in love with a black woman, he said "Preta, I’m not going to discuss promiscuity with anyone. I don't run that risk because my children are well educated and they don't live in the promiscuous environment such as is, unfortunately, yours."

Lying about history to excuse racism - "What debt [of slavery]? I never enslaved anyone in my life. Look, if you really look at history, the Portuguese didn’t even step foot in Africa. The blacks themselves turned over the slaves."

Xenophobia - "The scum of the world is arriving in Brazil, as if we didn’t have enough problems to resolve." (Talking about immigrants, mostly Senegalese, Haitian, Iranian, Bolivian, Venezuelan and Syrian)

Homophobia - After same-sex marriage was legalized, he said "It's a mess. The next steps are the adoption of children and the legalization of paedophilia."

Homophobia - "I would be incapable of loving a gay son. I wouldn't be a hypocrite. I prefer that he die in an accident than show up with a moustachioed man."

Homophobia - "If one's son begins acting kind of gay, then when he is spanked he'll change his behaviour."

Homophobia - "I will not fight against it nor discriminate, but if I see two men kissing on the street, I'll beat them up."

Homophobia - When asked about gay rights, he said "So let’s respect the pedophile’s right to have sex with a 2-year-old?"

Homophobia and misogyny - "Over time, due to liberal habit, drugs, with women also working, the number of homosexuals has really increased. I also tend to say if your son starts hanging out with certain people with a certain behaviour, he'll adopt that sort of behaviour. He'll think it's normal."

Misogyny - He said "I would not rape you. You don’t merit that." to a congresswoman, and then when asked about it on an interview he said "She doesn't deserve it [to be raped] because she's very bad, because she's very ugly. She's not my type, I'd never rape her. I'm not a rapist, but if I was, I wouldn't rape her because she doesn't deserve it."

Misogyny - "I have five children. There were four men, the fifth I got weak and it came out a woman."

Dictatorial behaviour - "The only mistake of the dictatorship was torturing and not killing."

Dictatorial behaviour - "We're going to shoot all the PT supporters in Acre." (PT is the opposing party)

Against any minority - "Since we are a Christian country, God above all. This history of a secular state doesn't exist, no. The state is Christian and the minority that is against it can leave. Let's make a country for the majority! The minority must bow to the majority. Law must exist to defend the majority! The minority suits itself [to the law] or just disappears."

High religiosity - "Brazil above all, God above everyone." (that's his campaign motto)

Those are just some few examples of what this monster has said throughout the almost 30 years he has been working as a politician. See how it's not an exaggeration to call him racist, homophobic and sexist?



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Bolsonaro is a pathetic coward and a shame to our country, but people here pretend he is ok just because they don't like PT, which was the leading party for 13 straight years (2003-2016). He is so pathetic that his party just spread fake news through WhatsApp and he doesn't go to political debates (he says his health doesn't allow him to talk after getting stabed, but he gives 1 hour interviews on TV and makes long lives on facebook almost everyday). The truth is that there were many other candidates with good projects that had no involvment with any kind of corruption scandals, yet people voted on him because they are also stupid racists just like this man.

I'm doing everthing I can trying to show people how bad this man can be and, although his ideas are very favorable to people like me (white, male, straight, graduated, etc.), people just offend me when I say something against him. To be honest if he is elected I hope that everthing goes so wrong that people will learn to vote on someone decent next time (if there is a next time any soon). Let's just hope people wake up and he loses on 2nd round...



mZuzek said:

I live in Brazil, and if you know anything about what's going on in Brazil, well, basically we are on the verge of electing a fascist as president. He's racist, homophobic, sexist, highly religious, well, you know... all the usual stuff.

That right there is the problem, but the problem is YOU!  Every time someone like you spouts all of that crap, you get eyerolls in response, because WE DON'T BELIEVE YOU!  Now, admittedly, I know nothing about the guy you're referring to.  But, I've seen those accusations thrown at absolutely everyone, and they are ALMOST NEVER TRUE.  You've cried wolf WAY too many times. 

I actually just recently saw a YouTube video that described this phenomenon perfectly.  Not sure if you'll actually sit there and watch it, but here it is.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwfEsrlEKcc

 

Basically, it's just a bunch a "evil labels" being slapped on people for political gain.  It's all complete BS.



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OdinHades said:
I feel you. While it's not that bad here in germany, I certainly feel that things are going the wrong way. Nationalists and the like are on the rise and it scares the shit out of me. I really thought we were over shit like that, but it just keeps coming back. People just don't learn from history.

I don't know what to say. I just really hope that things get better soon and people come to their senses.

Nothing wrong with Nationalism.  You're likely doing the same thing as OP, and falsely equating it with Nazis/Fascism.

Nationalism is nothing more than the desire to protect a country's values and way of life, and defending the rights of other nations to do the same.  It is a natural reaction to outside forces trying to force THEIR way of life on people.



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Kalkano said:
mZuzek said:

I live in Brazil, and if you know anything about what's going on in Brazil, well, basically we are on the verge of electing a fascist as president. He's racist, homophobic, sexist, highly religious, well, you know... all the usual stuff.

That right there is the problem, but the problem is YOU!  Every time someone like you spouts all of that crap, you get eyerolls in response, because WE DON'T BELIEVE YOU!  Now, admittedly, I know nothing about the guy you're referring to.  But, I've seen those accusations thrown at absolutely everyone, and they are ALMOST NEVER TRUE.  You've cried wolf WAY too many times. 

I actually just recently saw a YouTube video that described this phenomenon perfectly.  Not sure if you'll actually sit there and watch it, but here it is.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwfEsrlEKcc

 

Basically, it's just a bunch a "evil labels" being slapped on people for political gain.  It's all complete BS.

All that said about him is true, he is racist, sexist, violent, corrupt and many other bad things. If you search on google, youtube, news websites, anywhere, you will see. If you understand anything in Portuguese, I recommend you to see this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcBmypbsmjk he is saying that his political oponents should be killed while pretending to hold a gun during his campaign.