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Did the Switch finally destroy Nintendo's "Kiddie" image?

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Lonely_Dolphin said:
TheMisterManGuy said:

And every past Nintendo console with online connectivity barring the DS let you message your friends. It's more so just something Nintendo hasn't implemented on Switch yet. They should've, but I won't bet against them not including it in the future. 

It's been over a year, it's omission is clearly intentional at this point.

We'll see.



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cycycychris said:
potato_hamster said:

I could have sworn had voice chat for one of their testfires that was then removed before the game was released. I might be mistaken on it though. i can't find anything now that references that.

As a diehard Splatoon fan, I can tell you that the original Splatoon never had voice chat in the testfires or at any point in its lifespan.

Cool. Thanks. My bad on that one then.



TheMisterManGuy said:
Lonely_Dolphin said:
It's been over a year, it's omission is clearly intentional at this point.

We'll see.

How much more time needs to pass before until you believe?

Nope. Nintendo is still for kids



A console is often for the most part defined by its first party portfolio and for the most part those games are childfriendly games. Bayonetta is a 2nd party franchise at this point and i would hardly say Nintendos systems are defined by a game series like Bayonetta.
Nintendo Labo kind of reinforced this kiddie thing to be honest. I would still say that Nintendo is a child targeted platform.



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Areaz32 said:
A console is often for the most part defined by its first party portfolio and for the most part those games are childfriendly games. Bayonetta is a 2nd party franchise at this point and i would hardly say Nintendos systems are defined by a game series like Bayonetta.
Nintendo Labo kind of reinforced this kiddie thing to be honest. I would still say that Nintendo is a child targeted platform.

Child friendly doesn't mean child-targeted necessarily. You can sell anything to older audiences provided you present it in an attractive fashion. Switch is kid-friendly, but it's not childish or kiddy. 



TheMisterManGuy said:
Areaz32 said:
A console is often for the most part defined by its first party portfolio and for the most part those games are childfriendly games. Bayonetta is a 2nd party franchise at this point and i would hardly say Nintendos systems are defined by a game series like Bayonetta.
Nintendo Labo kind of reinforced this kiddie thing to be honest. I would still say that Nintendo is a child targeted platform.

Child friendly doesn't mean child-targeted necessarily. You can sell anything to older audiences provided you present it in an attractive fashion. Switch is kid-friendly, but it's not childish or kiddy. 

That is why i provided the context of their first party line-up. You will not find anything there, not designed for children. And in my opinion the first party games are what define the console.



Areaz32 said:

That is why i provided the context of their first party line-up. You will not find anything there, not designed for children. And in my opinion the first party games are what define the console.

I disagree. Metroid, Breath of the Wild, Fire Emblem, and Xenoblade weren't designed for children. ARMS, Splatoon 2, Mario Odyssey were designed for general audiences, which includes kids yes, but they don't target kids primarily. Only Labo, Kirby, and Pokemon were explicitly designed primarily for kids. Labo's pretty much the only game where Nintendo came out and straight up said that its for kids. You don't need an M rating to target an older audience. Good advertising, aesthetic design, and quality gameplay have far stronger marketing pull than the black letter on the box. 



TheMisterManGuy said:
Areaz32 said:

That is why i provided the context of their first party line-up. You will not find anything there, not designed for children. And in my opinion the first party games are what define the console.

I disagree. Metroid, Breath of the Wild, Fire Emblem, and Xenoblade weren't designed for children. ARMS, Splatoon 2, Mario Odyssey were designed for general audiences, which includes kids yes, but they don't target kids primarily. Only Labo, Kirby, and Pokemon were explicitly designed primarily for kids. Labo's pretty much the only game where Nintendo came out and straight up said that its for kids. You don't need an M rating to target an older audience. Good advertising, aesthetic design, and quality gameplay have far stronger marketing pull than the black letter on the box. 

Can't say i agree.

Also an M rating just means that it isn't targeted towards children. 



Areaz32 said:
TheMisterManGuy said:

I disagree. Metroid, Breath of the Wild, Fire Emblem, and Xenoblade weren't designed for children. ARMS, Splatoon 2, Mario Odyssey were designed for general audiences, which includes kids yes, but they don't target kids primarily. Only Labo, Kirby, and Pokemon were explicitly designed primarily for kids. Labo's pretty much the only game where Nintendo came out and straight up said that its for kids. You don't need an M rating to target an older audience. Good advertising, aesthetic design, and quality gameplay have far stronger marketing pull than the black letter on the box. 

Can't say i agree.

Also an M rating just means that it isn't targeted towards children. 

Yes, an M rating is not targeted at children (even though kids still play M rated games anyway so...). My point is that, you don't need to chase a Mature rating to market a game to an older audience. You can do that with good aesthetic design, simple, yet attractive ads, and fun looking gameplay. Nintendo knows this, which is why even kid friendly games like Splatoon 2 and Mario Odyssey were marketed to Adults as much as children.