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Medisti on 02 August 2018
mZuzek said:
Medisti said:

That's if you combine the 3DS and Wii U versions, which Nintendo (and Sakurai) don't consider to be the same game. They have different modes, stages and even their Classic Modes are completely different. The roster is the same.

The roster... and the mechanics, down to the most precise values for both universal gameplay and individual character traits. Each patch that was released always applied the exact same changes to both versions, and the versions were even numbered identically: Smash Wii U was 1.0.4 when it came out because it was the same version as the 3DS's 1.0.4. They were also named similarly, have very much the same logo, all the multiplayer game modes are exactly the same (except for some missing on the 3DS), even the single-player modes are rarely any different from one another except for the Smash Run vs. Tour thing. They both use the same theme song and menu design, as well as extremely similar designs for Battlefield and Final Destination (which also feature the same music in both versions). Many stages are shared between the two, including all of the DLC stages and even some from the Wii U version that were released as free DLC for the 3DS version.

They're the same game. Two different versions with different features, yes, but they're the same game, and I don't think I've ever even seen Nintendo referring to them as separate entries in the series, only Sakurai.

To be fair, I've never heard Nintendo refer to them as the same game, either.



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Green098 on 02 August 2018

Smash will sell more lifetime than Let's Go Pikachu & Eevee, Gen 8 Pokemon games are another story though.



couchmonkey on 02 August 2018
xMetroid said:
mZuzek said:

Being delusional is what makes us VGC users.

(edit: speaking for everyone else because I wasn't delusional enough to say that)

No but i was just shocked at everyone saying that. Yes pokemon lets go isn't what people are waiting fore but still... first pokemon in HD with 7 weeks + black friday against a 4 week smash.. i mean it could happen of course but pokemon would need to be a catastrophe.

 

Maybe it could happen in the US but Japan will just push pokemon way too hard for smash to win WW imo.

TBH until I read a couple of answers like yours, I was thinking launch aligned, in which case I think mash would take it.  unaligned, yes of course Pokemon wins.  

LT is interesting...I say 10-14 million for Smash and8-18 million for Pokemon Go, I don't understand the Pokemon audience well enough to guess if the changes will be a huge bonus or a damper. Forced to guess, I will pick Pokemon lifetme, only Brawl has ever passed 10.



tbone51 on 02 August 2018
Acevil said:
Shikamo said:
Pokémon in 2018, Smash LT

I could see this happening. Given Smash might also pull a Mario and sell like something 7 million in a month. 

Its gonna be over 10mil



Slownenberg on 26 August 2018

Of course Smash will sell more. I'm sure Pokemon Let's Go will sell well but its a side game, with the real Pokemon game coming out next year. I think it's possible Let's Go sells 10 million lifetime just because it's Pokemon, but Smash is a guaranteed 20+ million considering Mario and Mario Kart are heading that way as well and I suspect Smash will sell more lifetime than those two. The core Pokemon game coming out next year I think has a good chance to beat out Smash as likely the best selling game for the Switch lifetime, but Let's Go no not even close. I think Let's Go versus Splatoon 2 is more interesting.



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Faelco on 26 August 2018

Wow, people saying that Smash will sell 20 millions and that Pokemon Let's Go won't sell at all... I wouldn't be surprised if this thread is necrobumped in a few months/years.
Smash never sold more than 13M even on the Wii, what makes you think that this one will sell 20M on a smaller userbase? And sure, Pokemon let's go is a bit of a mystery, no way to be sure how it's going to sell. But for years you were all like "OMG when Nintendo will finally release a Pokemon game on home console, all console wars will be over, and even world peace will be achieved because the whole world will be united in playing Pokemon"... And now it's not going to sell because you don't like what it looks like?
Maybe Pokemon LG won't sell as much as a regular one, but it could very well sell enough to beat SSB. The marketing for Pokemon already started some time ago in Japan, with trailers being shown all the time on the trains. It's the first time I see this so early before the release date. Nintendo will surely invest more marketing in Pokemon LG, and if it succeeds it will sell more than Smash easily. Pokemon LG has more potential with a bigger fanbase to attract.



Munchies on 27 August 2018

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LipeJJ on 27 August 2018
mZuzek said:
Faelco said:

Wow, people saying that Smash will sell 20 millions and that Pokemon Let's Go won't sell at all... I wouldn't be surprised if this thread is necrobumped in a few months/years.
Smash never sold more than 13M even on the Wii, what makes you think that this one will sell 20M on a smaller userbase? And sure, Pokemon let's go is a bit of a mystery, no way to be sure how it's going to sell. But for years you were all like "OMG when Nintendo will finally release a Pokemon game on home console, all console wars will be over, and even world peace will be achieved because the whole world will be united in playing Pokemon"... And now it's not going to sell because you don't like what it looks like?
Maybe Pokemon LG won't sell as much as a regular one, but it could very well sell enough to beat SSB. The marketing for Pokemon already started some time ago in Japan, with trailers being shown all the time on the trains. It's the first time I see this so early before the release date. Nintendo will surely invest more marketing in Pokemon LG, and if it succeeds it will sell more than Smash easily. Pokemon LG has more potential with a bigger fanbase to attract.

Because Smash Bros. Ultimate is already looking like a much better game than Brawl ever did, and it appeals to the audience that actually has/wants a Switch. It's the Switch's biggest release since Odyssey and until Pokémon 8th gen (a two-year window), meaning it has loads of hype around it, too, and it will benefit from the crazy software numbers that basically every game pulls off on the Switch. Also, I'd hardly say it's a smaller userbase when the Switch has every chance of getting to 100m too.

I mean, software sales weren't even that amazing on the Wii to begin with. Most of the system's 10m+ sellers were either a "Wii something" game or a Mario game, everything that was a little more hardcore already sold much worse. Brawl having sold 13m is actually almost a wonder because it just never got that blue ocean appeal, even though they did try to get it by simplifying the game... the audience was simply never there.

By the way, I don't think Let's Go will do poor numbers at all, I think it has plenty of potential. However, I'd say it selling 11 or 12 million is its best case scenario, whereas such sales would be the worst possible scenario for Ultimate, if even possible. Smash Ultimate will just continue to sell for many years, whereas Let's Go will inevitably take a nosedive in sales the moment Pokémon 8th gen is revealed.

Not to mention past numbers don't seem to matter much on Switch. Its like you said already: It's true that Brawl did just about 14m on Wii, but it's also true that Twilight Princess did 7m on it, while Breath of the Wild is at 9.3m on Switch alone. The same is true for other games like Kirby, Xenoblade, etc.

The hype for Smash seems bigger than ever too, and the pre orders seem to corroborate this point.

Last edited by LipeJJ - on 27 August 2018

Bet with Teeqoz for 2 weeks of avatar and sig control that Super Mario Odyssey would ship more than 7m on its first 2 months. The game shipped 9.07m, so I won

flashfire926 on 27 August 2018
Faelco said:

Wow, people saying that Smash will sell 20 millions and that Pokemon Let's Go won't sell at all... I wouldn't be surprised if this thread is necrobumped in a few months/years.
Smash never sold more than 13M even on the Wii, what makes you think that this one will sell 20M on a smaller userbase? And sure, Pokemon let's go is a bit of a mystery, no way to be sure how it's going to sell. But for years you were all like "OMG when Nintendo will finally release a Pokemon game on home console, all console wars will be over, and even world peace will be achieved because the whole world will be united in playing Pokemon"... And now it's not going to sell because you don't like what it looks like?
Maybe Pokemon LG won't sell as much as a regular one, but it could very well sell enough to beat SSB. The marketing for Pokemon already started some time ago in Japan, with trailers being shown all the time on the trains. It's the first time I see this so early before the release date. Nintendo will surely invest more marketing in Pokemon LG, and if it succeeds it will sell more than Smash easily. Pokemon LG has more potential with a bigger fanbase to attract.

I'd place a bet on Smash having more lifetime sales, how bout it?



Bet with Intrinsic:

The Switch will outsell 3DS (based on VGchartz numbers), according to me, while Intrinsic thinks the opposite will hold true. One month avatar control for the loser's avatar.

Faelco on 27 August 2018
flashfire926 said:
Faelco said:

Wow, people saying that Smash will sell 20 millions and that Pokemon Let's Go won't sell at all... I wouldn't be surprised if this thread is necrobumped in a few months/years.
Smash never sold more than 13M even on the Wii, what makes you think that this one will sell 20M on a smaller userbase? And sure, Pokemon let's go is a bit of a mystery, no way to be sure how it's going to sell. But for years you were all like "OMG when Nintendo will finally release a Pokemon game on home console, all console wars will be over, and even world peace will be achieved because the whole world will be united in playing Pokemon"... And now it's not going to sell because you don't like what it looks like?
Maybe Pokemon LG won't sell as much as a regular one, but it could very well sell enough to beat SSB. The marketing for Pokemon already started some time ago in Japan, with trailers being shown all the time on the trains. It's the first time I see this so early before the release date. Nintendo will surely invest more marketing in Pokemon LG, and if it succeeds it will sell more than Smash easily. Pokemon LG has more potential with a bigger fanbase to attract.

I'd place a bet on Smash having more lifetime sales, how bout it?

How about it? I guess that's the point of the thread, so place any bet you want, have fun !

Sure, if a new Pokemon arrives quickly after this one but no other Smash, then Smash will have better legs and should sell better in the long term. I'm not saying it won't happen. 

But saying "Switch SW sales are on fire, so Smash will sell 50% more than usual, but on the other hand Pokemon will sell 50% less than usual" is a big exaggeration IMO.