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How Much Will Solo Make WW?

Under $700M 56 60.87%
 
$700M-$800M 18 19.57%
 
$801M-$900M 12 13.04%
 
$901M-$1B 3 3.26%
 
Over $1B 3 3.26%
 
Total:92
Azuren said:
Mr.GameCrazy said:

I feel like this identity politics thing is more like what Jon Kasdan thinks about Lando than what was actually in the film. I say this because I didn't see any indication of him being pan-sexual in the film itself. Regardless, I respect your decision to not watch it.

Thank you. Even if that's true, though, I'm still not going to watch it because TLJ ruined Star Wars for me. Until Kennedy is replaced, I'll just continue to personally boycott Star Wars.

So, after all of this talking about how "SJW pandering" has ruined the film, you haven't even watched it yourself to see if it's actually a good film or not.



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VGPolyglot said:
Azuren said:

Thank you. Even if that's true, though, I'm still not going to watch it because TLJ ruined Star Wars for me. Until Kennedy is replaced, I'll just continue to personally boycott Star Wars.

So, after all of this talking about how "SJW pandering" has ruined the film, you haven't even watched it yourself to see if it's actually a good film or not.

Maybe he will pirate it later to not help the company.

I don't think SJW pandering can ruin a film per se... but it certainly makes it less enjoyable. It was difficult to enjoy Black Panther with my eyes rolling so much. It took me out of the story and the movie itself was pretty dumb.



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Mr Puggsly said:
VGPolyglot said:

So, after all of this talking about how "SJW pandering" has ruined the film, you haven't even watched it yourself to see if it's actually a good film or not.

Maybe he will pirate it later to not help the company.

I don't think SJW pandering can ruin a film per se... but it certainly makes it less enjoyable. It was difficult to enjoy Black Panther with my eyes rolling so much. It took me out of the story and the movie itself was pretty dumb.

If he ends up watching a pirated version, fair enough, but considering how much he railed on people pirating video games it'd be pretty ironic.



Azuren said:
Mr.GameCrazy said:

I feel like this identity politics thing is more like what Jon Kasdan thinks about Lando than what was actually in the film. I say this because I didn't see any indication of him being pan-sexual in the film itself. Regardless, I respect your decision to not watch it.

Thank you. Even if that's true, though, I'm still not going to watch it because TLJ ruined Star Wars for me. Until Kennedy is replaced, I'll just continue to personally boycott Star Wars.

Why didn't you like TLJ? I thought the screenwriting was inexcusably bad, contrived, convoluted, and a waste of characters.

It felt like Johnson used gotcha moments the way Michael Bay uses explosions: shock the audience and loosely tie the set pieces together.

I went into TLJ a life-long fan and came out unsure if I ever wanted to see another SW film.



Mr.GameCrazy said:
Azuren said:

The funny part is you probably legitimately think you've won something. Protip: that's a L you keep grabbing. Here's looking forward to you continuing to have no grasp of your surroundings.

 

And no, I don't need to see it to tell you it has identity politics in it because Kasdan already publicly admitted there's identity politics in it:

https://twitter.com/JonKasdan/status/997684135933050880?s=19

 

The fact that these garbage standpoints are in this movie (and confirmed to be in there by the writer, so please stop with the "no it isn't, watch it" bullshit) means that I don't want to watch it. Keep your Marxist propaganda to yourself.

I feel like this identity politics thing is more like what Jon Kasdan thinks about Lando than what was actually in the film. I say this because I didn't see any indication of him being pan-sexual in the film itself. Regardless, I respect your decision to not watch it.

Well, the actor came out and said he supports Lando being pansexual. I don't know the original actors thoughts on it.

Reminds me of Star Trek though when they made Sulu gay in the new movies. Takei, who played Sulu from 1966 through 1991 in the original TV series and subsequent six movies, told The Hollywood Reporter that he thought the revelation that Sulu (John Cho) was gay was "really unfortunate." The actor, who is himself gay, said he had urged the filmmakers to "be imaginative and create a character who has a history of being gay, rather than Sulu, who had been straight all this time, suddenly being revealed as being closeted."

I'm of the same mind. Create new characters versus changing an iconic character. I feel like I saw something about making Superman Chinese at some point. That Chinese Superman would not be Superman. Or the black Spiderman. I don't care how good Miles is, he is not the Spiderman. Peter Parker is. Miles is like the many characters who took on the mantle of Captain America. Steve Rogers though is forever the only true Captain.

It's cheap and lazy to just change something like making a character a new race, or sex or sexuality or new person entirely onto an iconic character. You want a good black superhero, make a new one. Don't make Tony Stark black. There are no good black superheroes you say? Black Panther, Cyborg, Storm, John Stewart, Blade and many others would like to have words with you.



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Insidb said:
Azuren said:

Thank you. Even if that's true, though, I'm still not going to watch it because TLJ ruined Star Wars for me. Until Kennedy is replaced, I'll just continue to personally boycott Star Wars.

Why didn't you like TLJ? I thought the screenwriting was inexcusably bad, contrived, convoluted, and a waste of characters.

It felt like Johnson used gotcha moments the way Michael Bay uses explosions: shock the audience and loosely tie the set pieces together.

I went into TLJ a life-long fan and came out unsure if I ever wanted to see another SW film.

I'm pretty sure that's a fact.

You can very well enjoy TLJ, if you're just looking for a visual spectacle, and some cheap laughs. There was still some pacing issues, but ok, if you enjoyed it overall for those things….that's cool. You had a good time. Good for you. To say it was even remotely well written though…..I'm gonna have to look at you sideways.

Wouldn't say it was convoluted though, in fact, I'd say it was ridiculously basic. Like they could have maybe even gotten around the stupidity of certain plot elements if they'd bothered to convolute the shit out them lol



I don't care about all the SJW talk - I just care the TLJ ruined the series for me. Whatever the reasons were don't really matter, what matters is I was so disillusioned by the product that i felt completely detached and uncaring for anything the franchise did in the future.

Solo may be a lot better, It'd be hard pressed to be worse, but I really just don't care. IMO, they ruined it, it's gone. I don't care about these characters anymore.



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Maxosaurus-rex said:
Chris Hu said:

Yeah but none of those where short and fruity again if you are a dude you probably shouldn't wear a cape unless you are Okay with people questioning your sexuality. 

Your fruity isthe early 80s fashion 0

Well they didn't update the look much for the Solo movie he still wearing a short fruity cape. 

OT:  The movie bombing is actually a good thing I'm pretty sure not even die hard star wars fans want numerous unnecessary spin off movies. 



Angelus said:
Insidb said:

Why didn't you like TLJ? I thought the screenwriting was inexcusably bad, contrived, convoluted, and a waste of characters.

It felt like Johnson used gotcha moments the way Michael Bay uses explosions: shock the audience and loosely tie the set pieces together.

I went into TLJ a life-long fan and came out unsure if I ever wanted to see another SW film.

I'm pretty sure that's a fact.

You can very well enjoy TLJ, if you're just looking for a visual spectacle, and some cheap laughs. There was still some pacing issues, but ok, if you enjoyed it overall for those things….that's cool. You had a good time. Good for you. To say it was even remotely well written though…..I'm gonna have to look at you sideways.

Wouldn't say it was convoluted though, in fact, I'd say it was ridiculously basic. Like they could have maybe even gotten around the stupidity of certain plot elements if they'd bothered to convolute the shit out them lol

The plot wasn't convoluted, but the screenwriting was, to facilitate the gotcha moments. It just didn't make sense to introduce so many...pointless plot elements. There's a good 30 minutes to 1 hour of casino nonsense that was just unnecessary. As far as actual convolutions in the plot are concerned, though, what was the point of keeping Poe in the dark? Also, how did the codebreaker know Holdo's secret plan, if the only reason he met Finn and Rose was that they didn't know it (because Poe didn't know it.). It would have been better, if it had been completely excised: just bad, bad, bad. Maybe that's not convoluted and just plan stupid and illogical, like the great Rey identity non-answer. 

What really killed me was the ending and how wholly unnecessary it was, all to facilitate several gotcha moments. Rey should wake up at the start of episode IX, which starts at the beginning of TLJ, and warn Luke of a future she saw; just retcon the whole damn thing and fill in gaps to facilitate IX's arc.



VGPolyglot said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Maybe he will pirate it later to not help the company.

I don't think SJW pandering can ruin a film per se... but it certainly makes it less enjoyable. It was difficult to enjoy Black Panther with my eyes rolling so much. It took me out of the story and the movie itself was pretty dumb.

If he ends up watching a pirated version, fair enough, but considering how much he railed on people pirating video games it'd be pretty ironic.

I think we all agree its okay to pirate games from big evil companies as long as they push liberal agendas.

Either way, people tend to protest things they don't care for by not contributing to it. You can essentially learn everything about the Solo movie by simply reading some reviews and summaries about it. So you can become informed before throwing money at it.

On a side note, the SJW nonsense injected into Spiderman: Homecoming was also pretty annoying. Disney has an agenda and they have to consider its going to push customers away.



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