" We've seen some reports suggesting a PlayStation 5 due this year! It's not going to happen, but realistically just when can we see the 6x to 8x leap in power that typically defines a new console generation? And when will Microsoft follow suit?"

https://youtu.be/5ixSVQwLaZw

"15,16 Terraflop is achivable "

"Ryzen APU will be as small as Jaguar APU in the near future "

" PS5 and Xbox 2 could end up on similar machines , the different will be in secrete sauce and their own modified version. "

"next gen will be more about Ray Tracing "

Edit : Add Gamer NX Video about PlayStation 5 possible spec

With the mid-gen refreshes that "generational leap" is a bit complicated... they'd have to wait a decent while before they could vastly outperform the Xbox 1 X while maintaining affordability.

I imagine the next generation of consoles will not be an enormous upgrade over the Xbox 1 X/PS4 Pro, but will still be substantially better. As they say in the video, the true "generational leap" will be when compared to the original models, and specifically will see a big improvement in the processors and memory.

Also, my lord look at that like/dislike bar on that video... Fanboys can be ridiculous, that was a very level-headed and informative video. Why is everyone so anxious for some miracle box to release so soon anyway? The Pro and Xbox 1 X already offer some very impressive visuals if that matters so much to you.

If they  want to  use Midgen refresh console as base in generational leap, then 2021 or 2022 will be the release date for PS5 and Xbox 2, but if  Sony and Microsoft use base PS4 and Xbox One as reference and standard to improve their PS5 and Xbox 2 then  2019- 2020 will be the release date for next gen consoles. 

It means, if SONY want bigger leap then PS4 pro then we have to wait longer. but if they use base ps4 as standard then , we will hear PS5 sooner. 

- 2020
-$399

Pls Sony

I wonder if they´ll follow the script they had with the PS4, you remember:

-PS Meeting February 2013: Dualshock 4 revealed, first technical specs, Killzone SF showcase
-E3 2013: full reveal, $399 announced
-Launched November 2013, 7 years after PS3 launch

Now they could do the same thing in 2020

PS5 games will be made from the ground up for that system, the Pro/X doesn't have that luxury. So even if it's only twice as fast (12 TFLOPS), games will look much better because they don't have to work on the last gen systems.

Look at GoW on base PS4, vs the Pro. They are identical in all ways but resolution yet GoW is one of the best looking games ever made. In an age of 20+ TFLOP SLI PC's. A game optimized to look like that on a 1.8 TFLOP console. So imagine a game that uses 12 TFLOPS to the same degree? That's where the generational leap will come from.

Couldn't agree more. A CPU leap is no issue at all, but a GPU, Memory, and Storage leap is questionable. I hope they hold off until 7nm+ so that they can deliver a generational leap at every level. My PS5 would be Zen 3, NGGPU @ 20+TFLOP/s, with 64GB of RAM, and a 2 - 4TB NVMe SSD @ $400 - $500 in 2021 or 2022. That would offer a true genrational leapat every aspect.

As far as Ray Tracing goes, that is absolutely a requirement for the next gen. A next gen needs a generational leap in rendering tech. Ray Tracing will offer an undeniable leap over this generation that will be something that even the most casual consumer will be able to see and understand. That is where they can easily convince people to upgrade.

All I want for next gen is backwards compatibility and a choice between true 4k, or 60 FPS in the options menu of all games. After that, just give us games on the technical level of GoW and I'm good. 

No backwards compatibility, and I'm going to wait two years after the launch of the PS5. $400 for a 4K, or a 60 FPS system is just too much money. If I could trade in my PS4 towards it for $150 off, then I'd bite, since it would only cost me $250 to upgrade. 

Aside from faster loading times, bigger HD and a billion times more RAM going from PS3 to PS4 wasn't that big of an upgrade. We're really running up against the wall here with graphics. Next gen, graphics won't depend on the hardware, but rather the talent of the studio behind the game. GoW looking as good as it does on base PS4 is proof of that. 

Full BC included right? I'd go for that. It might even do 4K and 60 FPS at the same time!

That video was basically a whole lot of words to say "Sony (and MS) can launch consoles with a 'generational leap' whenever they way, if they're willing to lose a bunch of money on hardware sales."  Or, "about 2020 if they want to break even".

So, yeah, I agree.