I'll give you one: Nintendo doesn't sell their games/consoles officially in Brazil, would you be fine with pirating in that case if you lived here?

I personally don't think it's okay since I can easily get a Switch from the grey market (Which I did) and "import" the games by buying them digitally through the US eShop, but I also wouldn't judge someone who would rather pirate than jump through hoops just to be able to play those games.

Legally, no. Morally, it depends. I think if you pirate a game that is available to buy in store or online, then that is just wrong. If it happens to be a game that has been out of print for a long time and the publisher either no longer exists or has no interest in re-releasing the game, then I see nothing wrong with it because at that point, the copyright holder is refusing to take your money. In fact, I think pirating a game in such might potentially get the publisher to consider releasing the game again since they would have proof that there's a demand for it.

Some will (and have) brought up used games, asking how that is morally justified compared to pirating. First of all, unlike pirating, the person selling the used game is selling their own property. They paid for it, so now they have every right to do with it as they please just as long as they're not violating the terms of service of the software (in other words, pirating it). Second, when you have an establishment like GameStop, they still keep inventory of what they sell. So if a game from EA is being sold second hand, EA may not be getting money from it, but if the game sells well enough, GameStop will order more copies of that game from EA. This is because they can't simply rely on the consumer to return the game, but they know they can get more from EA with a simple order. Getting more copies of the game from EA might also mean potentially more second hand sales for GameStop. So in a way, a publisher can make money from second hand sales just based on demand, but maybe not as much as GameStop.

Oh, that is a good example. If you can get the console, then you could still buy the games via online. So I guess I'd say pirating would not be okay in this case, since they're available via the eshop?

I'm 50/50 on this actually. You can buy the games on the eShop, but since it's the US one you're technically still buying from another region instead of your own (Because it's not supported), not to mention that you'll need an international credit card to do that and will also pay a lot more for the game since you're converting from Brazilian Real to US Dollar. I personally just buy the games whenever possible, not really a fan of pirating if I can avoid it, but again, I wouldn't judge someone who'd rather pirate because you can't get those games officially over here.

I see what you mean. If buying the games ends up being too expensive and using an international card is too much of a hassle, then I'd understand those who would pirate. It sounds somewhat difficult to get Nintendo games over there.

This just like saying stealing can do some good. I was able to buy a drug for my daughter that cured her after i robbed a small store on the side of the road. Shes alive today because of that atore I robbed.

See how that works?

Now what no one says, or the side yoi do not hear, ia how because I robbed a store the store owner wasnt able to pay the medical bill for his son and the son died.

Lets call a spade a spade. Piracy is wrong. It sucks not having the monwy or means to get or play all the games we want, but thats life.

The more i read your posts the more I think you know very little of wjat you talk about. You are one of the confidently wrong types. So sure of what you are saying (even if its wrong) that people will just agree with you.

Who is this 'they' that gets money from used game sales? Have yoi bewn living under a rocck this past 20yrs? As far as the ga,es industry goes, used game sales is also bad. But its better by far than piracy because in most cases the people selling the games just out that money towards the purchase of other new games. 

Most certainly not.

Is it ok to steal someone else's property? No. It is not. And I will not respond to a semantics argument, so do not even try.

I don't expect people to agree with what I'm saying. When I say they I mean the game publisher and developer. Anecdotally most of the used games that I buy are not going towards people wanting to get money for new games, they're people that are trying to get rid of excess items or people trying to make a living off of re-selling.

I know thats what you meant. And thats also why you are wrong.

The game publishers and developers don't get anything from used game sales. Why do you think MS was trying to do an always online thing at the start of thia gen, why do you think most games have an online component these days?