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Bold Predition Achieved: Zelda has outsold Mario! (BotW vs. Odyssey)

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There is a small argument to be made here that because Breath of the Wild is a very different Zelda game that appeals to a much larger audience that it has a chance to challenge Odyssey.

That said, Mario is Mario and Zelda is Zelda. Zelda is a game and Mario is a brand. He's the jam to Nintendo's peanut butter. You don't see Nintendo without seeing or thinking Mario(and more recently Pikachu). On top of that, Nintendo will market Mario games much more, as he is their home console killer app.



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Roar_Of_War said:
MasonADC said:

It just had to catch up, and even then, the Sell through of Mario Odyssey was 1.5 million higher than Botw anyways. 

No it wasn’t. They were both 7.5 million with Wii U included. They were equal, and the gap in shipments has now decreased. Considering Zelda had a higher sell-through rate compared to shipped numbers than SMO, that potentially even suggests Zelda might have a current higher sell-through rate, if anything.

I'm clearly not counting the Wii U version, 



IkePoR said:
There is a small argument to be made here that because Breath of the Wild is a very different Zelda game that appeals to a much larger audience that it has a chance to challenge Odyssey.

That said, Mario is Mario and Zelda is Zelda. Zelda is a game and Mario is a brand. He's the jam to Nintendo's peanut butter. You don't see Nintendo without seeing or thinking Mario(and more recently Pikachu). On top of that, Nintendo will market Mario games much more, as he is their home console killer app.

So?



mZuzek said:
IkePoR said:
There is a small argument to be made here that because Breath of the Wild is a very different Zelda game that appeals to a much larger audience that it has a chance to challenge Odyssey.

That said, Mario is Mario and Zelda is Zelda. Zelda is a game and Mario is a brand. He's the jam to Nintendo's peanut butter. You don't see Nintendo without seeing or thinking Mario(and more recently Pikachu). On top of that, Nintendo will market Mario games much more, as he is their home console killer app.

So?

?



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MasonADC said:
Roar_Of_War said:

No it wasn’t. They were both 7.5 million with Wii U included. They were equal, and the gap in shipments has now decreased. Considering Zelda had a higher sell-through rate compared to shipped numbers than SMO, that potentially even suggests Zelda might have a current higher sell-through rate, if anything.

I'm clearly not counting the Wii U version, 

Why wouldn’t you?



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IkePoR said:
mZuzek said:

So?

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The OP was predicting BotW was gonna outsell Odyssey, you say "yeah maybe, but Mario is much bigger". What does that have to do with anything?

It'd be like me saying, for lack of a better example, "I predict Liverpool will beat Real Madrid in the UCL final", then someone saying "yeah maybe, but Real Madrid is a brand with much more worldwide appeal and mainstream knowledge and would still have twice as many UCL titles as Liverpool" or whatever. It's got nothing to do with the prediction itself.



mZuzek said:
IkePoR said:

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The OP was predicting BotW was gonna outsell Odyssey, you say "yeah maybe, but Mario is much bigger". What does that have to do with anything?

It'd be like me saying, for lack of a better example, "I predict Liverpool will beat Real Madrid in the UCL final", then someone saying "yeah maybe, but Real Madrid is a brand with much more worldwide appeal and mainstream knowledge and would still have twice as many UCL titles as Liverpool" or whatever. It's got nothing to do with the prediction itself.

If you don't see what I'm saying, that's your problem.  



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IkePoR said:
mZuzek said:

The OP was predicting BotW was gonna outsell Odyssey, you say "yeah maybe, but Mario is much bigger". What does that have to do with anything?

It'd be like me saying, for lack of a better example, "I predict Liverpool will beat Real Madrid in the UCL final", then someone saying "yeah maybe, but Real Madrid is a brand with much more worldwide appeal and mainstream knowledge and would still have twice as many UCL titles as Liverpool" or whatever. It's got nothing to do with the prediction itself.

If you don't see what I'm saying, that's your problem.  

I see exactly what you're saying, and it doesn't have anything to do with the thread.

Whatever.



Since Nintendo gave us the numbers for the end of their fiscal year, I figured I'd see how things are progressing compared to last year.  As always I'm adding in 1.5m to Breath of the Wild sales since that was the last number I've seen for Wii U sales.

Mar 31, 2018 report Mar 31, 2019 report
Mario Odyssey 10.41m 14.44m
Breath of the Wild 9.98m 14.27m
difference 0.43m 0.17m

As of Nintendo's latest fiscal report, Mario Odyssey's total sales are still ahead by 0.17m.  However it is also clear that Breath of the Wild is gaining ground compared to last year.

As I've been saying since this thread began, this is like the race between the tortoise and the hare.  Mario Odyssey raced ahead of Zelda at first, but gradually Zelda is gaining ground.  It just has stronger legs.  If this pace continues then Zelda should pass Mario by this time next year.



The_Liquid_Laser said:

Since Nintendo gave us the numbers for the end of their fiscal year, I figured I'd see how things are progressing compared to last year.  As always I'm adding in 1.5m to Breath of the Wild sales since that was the last number I've seen for Wii U sales.

Mar 31, 2018 report Mar 31, 2019 report
Mario Odyssey 10.41m 14.44m
Breath of the Wild 9.98m 14.27m
difference 0.43m 0.17m

As of Nintendo's latest fiscal report, Mario Odyssey's total sales are still ahead by 0.17m.  However it is also clear that Breath of the Wild is gaining ground compared to last year.

As I've been saying since this thread began, this is like the race between the tortoise and the hare.  Mario Odyssey raced ahead of Zelda at first, but gradually Zelda is gaining ground.  It just has stronger legs.  If this pace continues then Zelda should pass Mario by this time next year.

I'm wondering if Links Awakening will weaken BotW's ability to overcome Odyssey? Either way it's crazy that it's this close!

Edit: how do I quote/reply to someone on the phone? This is so much different than it used to be...