For everyone refering to an older post of me. I have still my Pc and my Switch. But i am waiting just until E3. Ps4 xbox sold.
For everyone refering to an older post of me. I have still my Pc and my Switch. But i am waiting just until E3. Ps4 xbox sold.
Kai_Mao said:
I don't know if we can say this is a bad year, even with personal tastes aside. A lot of these ports are games that fans haven't played before because it was on Wii U or it was on other consoles and its a good opportunity to port them and showcase the portability factor with the Switch. Not saying its a legendary year, but its hard to say its a bad year at this time. 2018 has Kirby, Yoshi, Smash Bros., Mario Tennis Aces, and Labo so far in terms of first party titles (or concepts with Labo in mind). Then you have Fire Emblem confirmed for 2018 and potentially Pokemon. And its not unprecedented that Smash and Pokemon could release in the same year as ORAS and Smash Wii U released on the same day in NA, albeit on different consoles. As for why Smash was announced, tough to tell. Nintendo will announce games when they're ready to show them or tease them. |
But that could be said for every single game: there's always people who haven't played it.
Portability might give them a second life, but it's still ports and more ports... and Indies.
Honestly, so far, it's a bad year.
This is pretty much what people expect for the first year, not the second.
Kirby, Yoshi and Mario Tennis are all smaller franchises. And Labo, well, it really doesn't add anything of value for people who already own a Switch.
Pokémon might come, but that's a big "if".
It will depend on what kind of Pokémon game we are getting. If they are going for a new game and full HD, i really doubt they can pull it off.
Don't forget that they have had no meaningful experience in HD development. And if it took Nintendo 3 years to develop New Super Mario Bros U... who knows when they can get that game out. Again, it will depend on what type of game we'll get.
Even if Pokémon and Smash release in 2018, that will most likely happen in the last 4-3 months. To me, that's not a good schedule planning.
Now that you mention it, they could have actually shown footage for Fire Emblem or Pokémon.
I don't want to jump to conclusions, but teasing Smash before showing footage of two big names, is not irrelevante.
But... wait and see.
Nintendo can redeem themselves with some good stuff towards the end of the year. There’s enough to keep me satisfied for the next few months. I don’t expect anything too remarkable til closer to Christmas (admittedly not too thrilled about smash myself...don’t have anything against but past experience has shown if I purchase it I doubt I’ll play it much) so hopefully some announcements come later (e3)...everyone’s different and to me the yoshi game will potentially be one of the years highlights...I’m probably anticipating yoshi the same way some people anticipate smash...I feel like if just one more big first party game gets a release date for towards the end of the year and I’ll be happy so here’s hoping...it’s still pretty early in the year after all.
Pagan said: For everyone refering to an older post of me. I have still my Pc and my Switch. But i am waiting just until E3. Ps4 xbox sold. |
"I just sold all of my consoles. I am console free now. Thought of holding the switch but nah."
...?
DélioPT said:
But that could be said for every single game: there's always people who haven't played it. Honestly, so far, it's a bad year. Kirby, Yoshi and Mario Tennis are all smaller franchises. And Labo, well, it really doesn't add anything of value for people who already own a Switch. Pokémon might come, but that's a big "if". Even if Pokémon and Smash release in 2018, that will most likely happen in the last 4-3 months. To me, that's not a good schedule planning.
Now that you mention it, they could have actually shown footage for Fire Emblem or Pokémon. |
I don’t know. It’s just hard for me to believe it’s a bad year. There are a lot of games announced that I haven’t played before so maybe that factors in as it probably factors into your opinion of the vice versa.
and you mentioned the issues of little games being expected for the first year. The first year was almost unprecedented. Not often do you see a console launch with what the Switch had: 2 all-timers in BoTW and Odyssey, new IPs in ARMS and Snipperclips, great sequels in Splatoon 2 and Xenoblade 2, a Deluxe port in MK8 that will eventually outsell its original version’s LT sales, Fire Emblem Warriors, and a plethora of indies and decent third party support (including Mario + Rabbids). So what else can Nintendo’s software teams come up with the match Zelda and 3D Mario? That alone is a tough act to follow.
but that doesn’t mean it’s a bad year, especially when we’re only 3 months in (and the start of Nintendo’s fiscal year) and with Kirby just about to release.
As for fire emblem and Pokémon not showing up, they’ll show up when Nintendo and their respective teams are ready to show them. I don’t think we should speculate too much on those projects as Nintendo nor any of those teams promised anything besides 2018 (or 2018 and beyond if you’re talking about Pokémon). No need to be cynical about it.
Is this the topic where arguments go to die a horrible death, becoming opinions? If yes, then OT is in the right place.
LipeJJ said:
Nintendo didn’t release even 1/3 of their system sellers tho. Pokémon, Super Smash Bros., 2D Mario and Animal Crossing are all bigger games than any game Nintendo released so far, excluding MK8 Deluxe, which is a port and should get a sequel eventually (well, maybe except AC, but seeing how many series are breaking their records on Switch, I’d not be surprised if it sold 15m~20m). I don’t see a drought either. I’m assuming you mean exclusives, since third party and indie games and constantly releasing on the system. Feb got Bayonetta 2 + 1, March has Kirby Star Allies, April got Labo 1 and 2, May have DKCTF and Hyrule Warriors DE, June has Mario Tennis Aces and July has Captain Toad Treasure Tracker. At least 1 exclusive each month. If they’re good for a specific person, that’s another question... but there really is not a drought from any perspective. You can say you don’t like any of those games, and that’s ok. |
Yeah I certainly wouldn't call it a drought. It's just that a MAJOR Nintendo franchise isn't hitting until Smash, presumably in the Fall. Nintendo has filled the first half of the year with a few ports of old games (bayonetta, DK, Hyrule Warriors, Toad Treasure) and a couple new ones (Kirby, Mario Tennis) as well as the Labo release which I think is more like a peripheral than a game release. With all the indie games constantly being released and some new third party games and third party ports it is by no means a draught or anything, just not a strong first half of the year. I think one more port (Mario Maker anyone??) or Yoshi hitting first half of the year would have shored it up a bit. And we have no idea what is coming from August - December other than Yoshi and Smash. Smash is obviously a HUGE release for the year. Hopefully Nintendo will have a few more AA Ninty games for the Fall and I'm sure plenty of third party games will be arriving for the holiday season.
Ideally Nintendo would release at least one MAJOR Nintendo franchise every 6 months (major as in either sales or just franchise importance and industry respect). I think of these franchises as Zelda, Mario Kart, Mario, Smash, Animal Crossing, Pokemon, Metroid, 2D Mario, and now Splatoon. In 2017 they released 3 new major franchise games plus one port, that was a huge year. So when you think about it like that it makes sense that there won't be another one until second half of 2018. But in 2019 and 2020 we're likely to get 2D Mario, AC, Pokemon and Metroid, so that's one every 6 months, plus no doubt some HD ports of older games in those franchises and a boatload of Nintendo's slightly less major franchises.
Personally I still need to play through Zelda so that'll take up the next half year probably. The only game I'll likely get that I know of right now for this year is Octopath Traveler which looks awesome, I'll probably end up getting Smash as well, and then I'm sure I'll end up picking up a few $15-$20 indie/third party games just like I did last year.
DélioPT said:
But that could be said for every single game: there's always people who haven't played it. Honestly, so far, it's a bad year. Kirby, Yoshi and Mario Tennis are all smaller franchises. And Labo, well, it really doesn't add anything of value for people who already own a Switch. Pokémon might come, but that's a big "if". Even if Pokémon and Smash release in 2018, that will most likely happen in the last 4-3 months. To me, that's not a good schedule planning.
Now that you mention it, they could have actually shown footage for Fire Emblem or Pokémon. |
Reading your comments for the last weeks makes me think that no matter what happened, really no matter at all, you would always find a way to be unhappy with Nintendo / the Switch. Even when they released every game you wanted with Pokemon tomorrow and Metroid Prime 4 the day after, you probably said that they would face problems now since all the heavy hitters are released now and there's not much left anymore.
Not meant in an offensive way but you are always concerned when you speak about the Switch. Even when it does fine.
Pagan said: For everyone refering to an older post of me. I have still my Pc and my Switch. But i am waiting just until E3. Ps4 xbox sold. |
So the other post wasn't entirely factual?
Either way, the sentiment is the same and you were expressing dissatisfaction as a whole with gaming. It just helps to put the thread into context. It happens, man. Hopefully Nintendo can do something at E3 that will pique your interest in the Switch.
DélioPT said:
But that could be said for every single game: there's always people who haven't played it. Honestly, so far, it's a bad year. Kirby, Yoshi and Mario Tennis are all smaller franchises. And Labo, well, it really doesn't add anything of value for people who already own a Switch. Pokémon might come, but that's a big "if". Even if Pokémon and Smash release in 2018, that will most likely happen in the last 4-3 months. To me, that's not a good schedule planning.
Now that you mention it, they could have actually shown footage for Fire Emblem or Pokémon. |
It seems like you are jumping through all sorts of hoops to try and make it seem like the 2018 lineup is bad.
"Kirby, Yoshi and Mario Tennis are all smaller franchises."
What does this have to do with anything? Even if that was relevant, they are all franchises that almost always sell over 1 million and have each done over 2 million.
"And Labo, well, it really doesn't add anything of value for people who already own a Switch."
What is this statement based on? How do you know the ~15 million people who own a Switch at the moment don't see value in Labo?
"Even if Pokemon and Smash release in 2018, that will most likely happen in the last 4-3 months. To me, that's not good schedule planning."
From Feb-July (6 months), Nintendo has/will publish 9 games 1st/2nd party games on Switch. Even if we exclude the Wii U ports, that is still 5 new games in 6 months. Thats like the exact defintion of good schedule planning.
You have been pretty negative on all things Switch related since before it was even released and have been wrong about pretty much everything so maybe if you stop being so negative, you can be right for once.
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