Pretty much.

Sony has no reason to rush into next gen. They are dominating and making rivers of money. It would be insane for them to run the risk of starting a new gen, wich is always a gamble, and lose all that easy money. Aslong as the hardware is selling they have jo reason to.

If someone is gonna rush the next gen it's microsoft. They are not in a confortable position, Sony is.

PS5 PRO is gonna be a beast. :D

Hopefully not, this console generation could go on way longer than just 6 years, I think it should really change when PC hardware gets it's next massive boost, and when they can run 4k60FPS in an open world game for a cheap price.

Really wouldn't matter to me since I don't buy Sony products anyways as I prefer Microsoft's online titles, and Nintendo's single player/co-op titles. So really wouldn't matter if they went to 2019 as I would be getting an Xbox One X and a 4k TV at that time.

Late 2019 would be 6 years, that's hardly rushing into next gen. It's also similar to the strategy they followed with PS1 and the PS2. Didn't stop the PS1 selling 102M and the PS2 from becoming the highest selling console ever. The PS4 is still going to sell a shit ton with a Slim at $149 and a Pro at $249.

The difference is, in the PS1 & PS2 days, six years was enough to make significant gains in what could be accomplished with software. Now we are at a point where even if hardware was progressing the same, diminishing returns make software gains less and less impressive. 

Another thing is, PS1 & PS2 peaked much more quickly, and their successors came well after the peak. PS4 had its best sales last year, and has a great chance to sell even more this year.

PS4 still has plenty of room to grow, and technology has a few years before truly wow worthy next gen software can be achieved. Adding everything up, a PS5 in 2019 doesn't look good from any angle. 

I still think a full 4K PS4 Premium in 2019 is the way to go. Then deliver a true next gen PS5 in 2022.

PS4 Premium can offer 10TFLOPs GPU and a 3.0GHz Jaguar chip with no problem. Add in 16GB of RAM and an SSHD, and you will have a perfect XBO X besting option within the ecosystem.

Then that opens the door for PS5  to be built on AMD's 4th Gen Ryzen tech, and their brand new Next Gen GPU architecture, both on 7nm+ fabrication. It will alloe them to jumo to 32 or 64GB o RAM, and have an M.2 NVMe card in every unit. That will offer an undeniable next gen leap in software that will make PS5 a justifiable upgrade to a much larger audience.

Pretty sure Vega is going straight from 14nm to 7nm. Last I remember reading, sampling in late 2018, so probably early-mid 2019 launch for those cards. 'Navi' and 'next gen' are both supposed to be out before the end of 2020 apparently, but AMD seems to be running a little behind so. Considering Ryzen 2 (7nm) is lined up for sometime in 2019, more than likely first half of the year like Ryzen (14nm) and Ryzen+ (12nm), both CPU and GPU would be available for a PS5 sometime in 2019 (most likely later). Having 7nm APU's ready by then shouldn't be a problem either.

This doesn't mean PS5 would be coming 2019 necessarily, but it more than likely could if they wanted it to. Depending on the other hardware and it's prices and availability, could put a delay on the launch if they are assuming sales like PS4. If the price was $500 though, they shouldn't need to worry quite as much about early inventory.

A 2019 PS5 has to be $500+, no question. Late 2019, maybe, but no sooner than that.

If PS is thinking a late 2020 PS5 launch, then there is no point in a PS4 Premium. Now if PS has a hunch that XB is going to stick with a 4 year gap, and launch holiday 2021, then they could very well decide to wait as well, and launching a PS4 Premium would be acceptable in that case, so sometime during early to mid 2019 would make sense to launch mid-mid-gen.

It's even possible that PS is cocky enough again to assume even if XB announces a late 2020 'XB2', that if they immediately announce PS5 is coming 6 to 12 months later, with similar or better specs for $400 or $500 (whatever is competitive), that their customers will stay put with PS4, Pro, and Premium in play. As long as it isn't another PS3 scenario, with exotic, overly expensive tech, they just might be fine with a plan like that.

I do think they will wait for 7nm fabrication process with high yields so the console can achieve a decent unit price with great performance. We debate when commercially should be right for the console but it wouldn't surprise me if Sony weren't more focused in releasing when they can achieve their hardware goals to make a next gen product worth having. I still think a launch between Autumn 2019 and Autumn 2020 is likely or at least quite possible.

It's possible we see some new games released that are ps4/ps5 compatible for a while but unlike xbox one x there will be exclusive games making full use of the ps5 hardware that gradually appear until they become the majority. The PS5 will probably be powerful enough to do full PS4 games in VR without compromise. It wouldn't surprise me if many classic ps4 games go VR and the VR experience will be improved on PS5.

I don't think people need to worry about ps4 it will likely to continue to sell at high numbers even after the ps5 launch.

It wouldn't surprise me if we got a ps4 without optical drive and with flash memory instead of hdd in a budget set top box that enabled people to play ps4 games natively as well as stream ps5 games either from a ps5 you own or simply over psn from server streaming ps5 systems. Sony makes it's real money from psn and ultimately it wants as many people using psn as possible and buying services, product from it.

Whatever the timing we know Sony will be working on a ps5 no question. Late 2019 is probably the earliest possible for release, maybe 2021 is the latest possible realistically so I don't see the big deal it will happen within a window of perhaps 2 years.

Yes, I agree that Sony won't let MS get one year head start again. But there is no way MS launches their new console next year. They've just launched One X less than half year ago.

Definitly. If PS5 is coming in 2020 then PS4 Premium is pointless, but if they are looking to stretch it to 2021 or 2022, then PS4 Premium in 2019 should be just fine. 

I would like to say that Sony would not be ignorant enough to break their ecosystem with bad hardware decisions, but I won't put it past them. Hopefully Cerny will keep them on track. Like I said, I think Zen 3 and Next Gen are the perfect time for PS5. Ryzen should be here for a long while, and building around AMD's Next Gen GPU tech seems like a no brainer plan. That offers easy B/C, and allows memory and storage tech to match the processing advancements, which should allow them to build a very well balanced architecture for the PS5 family of devices.