VGPolyglot said:
It's not going to hurt their wallet, it's making hundreds of millions of dollars. |
They bought Star Wars for 4 billion $, so they should make a billion a year in profits from the brand to get into the green zone in the coming years. If the movie makes less than 500 million in pure profits it will be a disappointment.
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Azuren said:
The most frustrating part of all of it is the fact that Finn, a significantly better character, IS RIGHT FUCKING THERE. USE HIM. |
So true. In the thread I made about TFA, one of the things I would have changed is making Finn the Jedi, not Rey. Rey was just the obvious and safe choice, given her appearance and home planet, just like Luke. Don't get me wrong, it cold have worked with Rey. But, unfortunately, the writers weren't capable of giving us an actual character in her, just a Mary Sue.
| DivinePaladin said: Love the editorializing in the title. It'll end up well over $1b anyway, probably $1.5b, regardless what the core SW fanbase thinks about the film. |
$1B, sure. $1.5B? Doubtful. The fact remains, however, Disney wanted to make a lot more than that. Now, they have less and pissed off the fanbase. Oh, and it's not editorializing if its the truth.
Cobretti2 said:
The funny thing is one of the MAIN plot holes was pretty much in the original trilogy too. Til they made the prequels to explain some of it (ironically adidng other plot holes lol)
The thing people forget is Disney will milk this cow. A huge plot hole in one movie could be a side movie on its own.
The other annoying thing is people talking Mark Hamill didn't like the movie. Well woopie fucking do. If he hated it so much why sell yourself out for the money? Because he NEEDS money. if he didn't need the cash I am sure he could have pushed back with threats to quit and they would have changed it or fired him. Guess he did not want to be fired. |
Interesting. I don't recall the thrilling part in the OG trilogy where we had to endure a turtle vs turtle chase for 2 hrs. One that could have ended very quickly if the huge plot hole of the Order being able to call in other ships to that location, or even being able to fly a bunch of ships straight through the rebel one, were addressed. Sure, the OG trilogy probably has a bunch of small nitpicky ones if you go through them. Not ones that completely ruin the movie or are that stinking big. And this new trilogy is a continuation of the old one. You can't just completely reset the politics of the galaxy like the OG trilogy didn't happen. You have to explain that shit. It doesn't get the same leeway as a new movie in a new franchise.
numberwang said:
The bought Star Wars for 4 billion $, so they should make a billion a year in profits from the brand to get into the green zone in the coming years. If the movie makes less than 500 million in pure profits it will be a disappointment. |
They make money from more than the films.
Im not a harcore SW fan but damn... this movie dissapointed me so damn much.... I mean seriously WTF did they do to Luke..
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Cobretti2 said:
See to me reactions like this are like a premature ejaculation. There is one movie left and being a half glass full kind of guy I hope they answer these outrageous talents she has lol. They pretty much killed off all the original trilogy main characters so this is the time to answer that question. |
Wow, are you easy to please. It's been 2 years and almost 5 hrs worth's of film across 2 films. Expecting answers is not premature. And don't expect any.
Really, there is absolutely no explanation they could give for her being so powerful with absolutely not training. Oh, wait...she got 5 whole mins of meditation training. Yea, she should be the most powerful person in the galaxy, now. /s
numberwang said:
They bought Star Wars for 4 billion $, so they should make a billion a year in profits from the brand to get into the green zone in the coming years. If the movie makes less than 500 million in pure profits it will be a disappointment. |
Didn't you hear? It's all about how much we can give to Disney. Who cares about the quality of the product they put out.
Truthfully, Disney will still make money on this film, mostly because of a hyped up opening weekend. But, they will be very concerned (or at least they should be) going forward when they think about how much they thought they would make. I truly believe they thought they would only be a little down from TFA, like Avengers 2 was compared to the first one. Maybe make $1.8B-$1.9B WW. As it is, now, they may not even have enough to crawl to $1.5B. I think the US is going to fall to $550M-$600M. The other countries are going to have to do some heavy lifting to push it to $1.5B. Which it doesn't look like they will give that much of a push.
thismeintiel said:
Might want to double check your facts. ROTJ made the least. ~$60M less than ESB. Which is about $150M in today's money. It made a little less domestically, a little less than a $19M difference, but in other countries it did better. I think people's opinion will stay the same or sour even more. There is so much to ESB, both in story/lore, the characters, and effects. What does TLJ have going for it? Porgs? Plotholes so big you can fly a Destroyer through them? A side story straight out of a Disney film? Nothing really redeeming, except some of the scenes were really nicely done. And even though there were some good ideas in it, they ultimately led to nowhere and/or to huge letdowns. There is nothing even close to the level of "I am your father" to be found there. |
Star Wars made 307 million. ESB made 209 million. ROTJ made 253 million.
VGPolyglot said:
It's not going to hurt their wallet, it's making hundreds of millions of dollars. |
It sold less than SW the force awakens and it likely sold less than they expected it to so it is hurting their wallet. It's just like the recent game is hurting EA's wallet.
Aeolus451 said:
It sold less than SW the force awakens and it likely sold less than they expected it to so it is hurting their wallet. It's just like the recent game is hurting EA's wallet. |
If I buy a rare video game for $10 and then sell it for $50 instead of the $80 I was expecting, my wallet isn't hurting, I'm just making a smaller profit than I anticipated.
Oh, I completely left out the foreign markets. I'll post this here and in the OP.
As for the foreign markets, TFA opened with $281M. TLJ opened with $230M. Down $51M, or down 18%. This, of course, could be attributed to the massive hype behind a new SW that TFA had. However, now we have the totals as of the 24th, which accounts for two weekends and one set of weekdays. TLJ is currently sitting at $380M in foreign markets. At this same point in time, TFA was sitting at $546M. So, the difference has grown to $166M in just 7 extra days, which means it is now down by 30%. Seems the foreign markets aren't exactly thrilled with the movie, either.
In total, by this point in its life, TFA was sitting pretty with ~$1.1B. TLJ sits at ~$745M, a difference of $355M, or down 32%. I think that gap is just going to continue to grow. Disney is not liking this.
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spurgeonryan said:
God damn it! I missed All spoilers till just now. Luke dies, he is not the father, and his whole life he had to live on a shitty island.
Just hearing that he dies though ruins it all for me. |
Sorry to see that happen to you. it happened to me too before I got the chance to watch it. I still recommend watching it despite that, though. I liked it a lot.
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