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method114 said:
Errorist76 said:

 

Obama has been caught like 18 times in 8 years?!

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/12/14/opinion/sunday/trump-lies-obama-who-is-worse.html

 

Fake News I guess

The funny thing is it is fake news. I took a look at that list and found two

lies missing from it. They either poorly researched Obama’s lies or had some sort of bias. This is from someone who doesn’t really even pay attention to politicians. It’s so disgusting how you can’t  trust any media anymore. That’s the Nytimes and they can’t even get it right.

I mean it's the same news company that published an opinion article stating men in their natural form are rapists.

This stuff seriously needs to stop. Does Trump lie? No shit, everyone does. Does that make it okay for him to lie? No. I get it, you hate Donald, I understand that even though I don't think the same way. However, if you complain about someone being a corporate liar, maybe you shouldn't get your 'news' from companies that are corporate liars.



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Donald is awesome, he literally single handedly made near an entire section of left lose their minds and go insane.

lol how the hell did you ever lose to him ? the guy ran for jokes and ohh shit he actually won.



TH3-D0S3R said:
method114 said:

The funny thing is it is fake news. I took a look at that list and found two

lies missing from it. They either poorly researched Obama’s lies or had some sort of bias. This is from someone who doesn’t really even pay attention to politicians. It’s so disgusting how you can’t  trust any media anymore. That’s the Nytimes and they can’t even get it right.

I mean it's the same news company that published an opinion article stating men in their natural form are rapists.

This stuff seriously needs to stop. Does Trump lie? No shit, everyone does. Does that make it okay for him to lie? No. I get it, you hate Donald, I understand that even though I don't think the same way. However, if you complain about someone being a corporate liar, maybe you shouldn't get your 'news' from companies that are corporate liars.

Your right it's just so infuriating to see the way times have changed. You used to get into a debate with someone and cite the NY times and know you were right at that point. Now it doesn't mean jack. I can't think of any publication that does at this point I can't believe what we've done to our own media. 



TH3-D0S3R said:
method114 said:

The funny thing is it is fake news. I took a look at that list and found two

lies missing from it. They either poorly researched Obama’s lies or had some sort of bias. This is from someone who doesn’t really even pay attention to politicians. It’s so disgusting how you can’t  trust any media anymore. That’s the Nytimes and they can’t even get it right.

I mean it's the same news company that published an opinion article stating men in their natural form are rapists.

This stuff seriously needs to stop. Does Trump lie? No shit, everyone does. Does that make it okay for him to lie? No. I get it, you hate Donald, I understand that even though I don't think the same way. However, if you complain about someone being a corporate liar, maybe you shouldn't get your 'news' from companies that are corporate liars.

The NYT is among the most acknowledged news sources on the whole planet, no matter what your leaking tin foil hat tells you.

But whatever, yeah...let him lie! It doesn't matter that the president of the United States of America, the most powerful and probably proudest country on earth is a colossal dickhead and a liar, who even made people believe what independent news sources are telling is all bullshit. I mean, how manipulable must one be to believe HIM but question all news sources on this planet?!!

 

 

method114 said: 
TH3-D0S3R said: 

I mean it's the same news company that published an opinion article stating men in their natural form are rapists.

This stuff seriously needs to stop. Does Trump lie? No shit, everyone does. Does that make it okay for him to lie? No. I get it, you hate Donald, I understand that even though I don't think the same way. However, if you complain about someone being a corporate liar, maybe you shouldn't get your 'news' from companies that are corporate liars.

Your right it's just so infuriating to see the way times have changed. You used to get into a debate with someone and cite the NY times and know you were right at that point. Now it doesn't mean jack. I can't think of any publication that does at this point I can't believe what we've done to our own media. 

So you prefer to believe in a worldwide known liar, narcissist and con-man instead of the highest decorated journalists on this planet?! Congratulations...I guess I can't help you.



Errorist76 said:
TH3-D0S3R said:

I mean it's the same news company that published an opinion article stating men in their natural form are rapists.

This stuff seriously needs to stop. Does Trump lie? No shit, everyone does. Does that make it okay for him to lie? No. I get it, you hate Donald, I understand that even though I don't think the same way. However, if you complain about someone being a corporate liar, maybe you shouldn't get your 'news' from companies that are corporate liars.

The NYT is among the most acknowledged news sources on the whole planet, no matter what your leaking tin foil hat tells you.

But whatever, yeah...let him lie! It doesn't matter that the president of the United States of America, the most powerful and probably proudest country on earth is a colossal dickhead and a liar, who even made people believe what independent news sources are telling is all bullshit. I mean, how manipulable must one be to believe HIM but question all news sources on this planet?!!

 

 

method114 said: 

Your right it's just so infuriating to see the way times have changed. You used to get into a debate with someone and cite the NY times and know you were right at that point. Now it doesn't mean jack. I can't think of any publication that does at this point I can't believe what we've done to our own media. 

So you prefer to believe in a worldwide known liar, narcissist and con-man instead of the highest decorated journalists on this planet?! Congratulations...I guess I can't help you.

What? Did you just decide to ignore the second half of my post or are you okay with defending a terrible source that hasn't been relevant since the switch to TV and thus has been grasping for straws to get an adequate amounts of subscribers?

This goes for all sources BTW, including Fox News, so don't even spew garbage saying I'm DT's lap dog.



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TH3-D0S3R said:

I mean it's the same news company that published an opinion article stating men in their natural form are rapists.

This stuff seriously needs to stop. Does Trump lie? No shit, everyone does. Does that make it okay for him to lie? No. I get it, you hate Donald, I understand that even though I don't think the same way. However, if you complain about someone being a corporate liar, maybe you shouldn't get your 'news' from companies that are corporate liars.

The news can lie all it wants. We're comparing them to the guy running the USA with access to nuclear launch codes who's systematically breaking anything to do with Obama, the EPA and basically anything other than a country with black smoke coming out of their stacks like China. That's what he's trying to do...industrialize just like China.

ratchet426 said: 
And yet is loyal, idiot subjects simply don't care. To them, all of his lies are easily explained away as "fake news" from the corrupt "libtard" media who are just trying to make Saint Donald look bad. And of course, the involuntary knee-jerk rebuttals of "But Hillary did xyz" "But we suffered for 8 years under Obama" "But Liberals" "But BENGHAZI!!!!" "But her emails" "But, but but ....."

He's blowing so much smoke but it's at the point of being pathetic now. It looks like they have their teeth stuck into everyone up to an including his Son for corruption.  If it hits him, Don Donny Sr. will fall. No person with a brain will be able to deny that link even though they're denying it right now.



Goodnightmoon said:
Trump apologist are really amazing, someone has to make a study about them.

Morons have been studied since the beginning of time. Still no cure though.



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First and foremost, media making mistakes doesn't make them fake news, as long as they correct those.
Second, i don't understand how more and more people manage to live in their own little bubble. That actually seems to get easier and easier with modern asocial media and more information filters.
Third, yeah, Trump's a narcist idiotic scumbag who doesn't care at all for Joe Average. Yet, people wont realise for quite some time. Not sure why they don't want to see that he actually is establishment, but that's how it is.
Good thing is, as incompetent as he is, he makes Murica totally irrelevant. And that's where he really does a good job.



At the end of the day, politics is theatre, and little more, at least here in the US. I'm not surprised to hear this at all. All politicians lie. Trump is just better at it than many others. Most Americans are dumb or at least not known for their critical thinking - and will often vote for a candidate simply on their appearance/rhetoric, or because they're simply on "Team Democrat" or "Team Republican" without actually knowing most of their stances on major issues/policies. Though this election is a bit of an anomoly in that many (on both the left AND the right) were crying for an outsider because the political system and economy has been failing us for so long. The Dems foolishly decided to collude against THEIR outsider in Bernie Sanders to push their highly unpopular and corrupt candidate in Hillary Clinton while the Republicans ran with their outsider in Trump, which many initially opposed but ultimately ended up in a victory for them. If the Dems just let Bernie take the reigns and went with the voter's choice instead of letting super deletes and corporate donations determine the victor - the general election would have been a battle of the outsiders, from which I have little doubt Bernie would have steamrolled the election as he had the Blue Wall/Rust Belt. But I digress...

Trump is a performer (it's no coincidence he's appeared on WWE) and knows how to capitalize on trends with his rhetoric, and says what many want to hear. Simple as that. Obama was in many ways the same with his articulate/intellectual manner as a contrast to the bumbling idiot George Bush, driving home the point of "change" in the latter months of the stagnant Bush years back in early '08, promising a brighter future from the warmongering and authoritarian policies of the Neocons. But at the end of the day, it's about performance. On Trump, the jury is still out from where I sit, but I do know the economy has taken a large upturn, which is a large reason many voted for him.. Politics these days are little more than a sales pitch and an advertising campaign to gain votes, and have largely been that way since the day of Kennedy.

There's also the element of being heavily under the microscope, which I'm sure is even more true here in the US. Every little thing you say or do is going to be monitored, recorded, retained, etc. So it's easy to contradict yourself. After all, presidents are only human, and all people lie and/or contradict themselves frequently.

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