Console gaming isn't exactly plug n play anymore. They are tiered now. People are going to have to get used to it. This isn't going to be just a pubg or X thing. It's going to happen with other games and it's going to happen with the pro.

What's the alternative? Divide the user base making any console besides the lowest tier have a dead ecosystem? It's not as simple as locking both at 30 frames. There would be other advantages like draw distance. If u made both systems look and play the same than there would be no reason to buy an x. U can't segment pc and x together because mouse vs gamepad doesn't work.

and saying it sold x amount of copies on pc does not imply that it's a cross platform title. It's literally just saying that the game is popular on pc.

See I didn't know that. But increasing graphical has its own advantages, so pro users will still have advantages. In my opinion 30 fps vs 60 will not destroy or harm the game at all, as it does not on pc. 

If I want to go play pubg on my 300$ laptop I either can't or I will be playing on the lowest settings at 30fps or less. If I want to play it at better settings than I need to fork over some cash. I guess me n u fundamentally disagree on this aspect.

I guess we'll just have to see how what you're suggesting pans out. This was my only gripe with mid gen console upgrades, is the fragmenting that will occur once it's decided that fragmentation is ok beyond just graphical fidelity. Once you cross into fps advantages and assume it's ok on consoles, especially same gen consoles, and on mp focused games like this, then you've successfully divided your userbase, at which point why buy consoles if each tiered gen leaves you in the dust? I hope this remains just an MS thing. They want to divide their group, fine.. but I can see this not ending well regardless..it's like a " you want to keep playing, you'll have to upgrade your console every few years".. sorry, but you're not PC. I could upgrade much cheaper on PC to keep playing..

Yes I'm on my phone, sorry. I spell bad because of it too. 

I just honestly don't see this harming ms. This it going to sell millions on Xbox. Xbox users love mp, and it's 30$. It's extremely popular on mixer, which is the streaming app on Xbox. And look at fortnite. It's constantly one of the most played games on Xbox, and it's the crappy knockoff. I actually think due to pubg the x will be more successful. It showcases the difference between the 2 systems, just another reason to upgrade.

Could u upgrade your pc for cheaper? 300$ every 2.5-4 years. That's a genuine question. All these pc parts that come out seam awfully expensive to me. 

For the record I was against mid-gen upgrades as well. As someone mentioned console gaming has traditionally been plug n play. This complicates things a bit. 

If Sony has crossplay between PS4 and 5 it will most likely happen with them too. I think the only reason they banned it for now is because the CPU inside the 4 and pro are so similar. But when it's that old jag vs a ryzen they might change their tune.

30fps is still playable to a ton of people.
But if the better image quality AND performance entices people to upgrade, that is still a win for Microsoft.

Depends. On console...  Devices have started to become more common that allow for mouse and keyboard inputs, especially prevalent in games like Overwatch... And the mouse does give those people a massive sizable advantage.

The base Xbox One gets lower framerates than the Xbox One S as well.

You can upgrade your PC for less than $300 every 2.5-4 years.
I have a secondary machine that is going on 10~ years of age and it probably ends up with only a $100 GPU upgrade every few years.

I don't think console gamers realize how cheap PC gaming can be over the long term.

Agreed.

Agreed again.  What else are they for?

If this were happening in COD, or some other, more traditional shooter, then it might be a big deal.  But, PUBG doesn't rely on the same type of gameplay.  FPS just isn't a big deal.  

Similarly, FPS, input lag, and the other stuff gamers talk about all the time really only significantly impacts gameplay with with high level play.  For the vast majority of us, we'll never notice a difference in k/d.  

Hold on, it comes out in like 12 days. How do they not know?

That's the beta/early access version. I assume they're talking about the actual release.

Not having cross play with pc is a good thing... If it was ps4 or switch, for arguments sake, I'd be fine.

Mouse and keyboard shit all over controllers. The precision of a mouse especially. It would be an insane advantage to PC users.

It also mentions pc sales on the cover. That doesn't imply cross platform play at all.