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Last November,

I supported him and I still do - Americas 91 15.77%
 
I supported him and I now don't - Americas 16 2.77%
 
I supported him and I still do - Europe 37 6.41%
 
I supported him and I now don't - Europe 7 1.21%
 
I supported him and I still do - Asia 6 1.04%
 
I supported him and I now don't - Asia 1 0.17%
 
I supported him and I still do - RoW 15 2.60%
 
I supported him and I now don't - RoW 2 0.35%
 
I didn't support him and still don't. 373 64.64%
 
I didn't support him and now do. 29 5.03%
 
Total:577
Alara317 said:
Dark_Lord_2008 said:

Great news, Trump is declared a national emergency so he can build his wall to fulfil his main election promise. In Trump's wall we Trust! Build the Wall! It is all about the Wall! Immigration and protecting borders is a big deal in the modern world: conservative/nationalist governments stay in power by pushing anti-immigration and stronger borders = stronger economy.

Stopping the boats will win the votes again like it has done in previous Australian elections. In Australia the government only has to run ads over and over  about immigration and stopping the boats and that wins enough support to keep the government in power and it has worked for the last 20 years in Australia.

The things you say are so blatantly disgusting that I honestly can't tell if you're sincere or a troll. 

I've seen Onion articles with more believability than the nonsense you spew. The only way I can read your work and not want to leap through the internet to slap some sense into you is by assuming you're actually a liberal or at least reasonably minded person who created a hardcore alt-right persona to satirize the extremist views of the modern political right in the US. 

It's either that or your very existence is polluting the gene pool and making the world a worse place. I chose to believe the former. 

Please don't confirm or deny it either way. I'd chose ignorance over knowing people like you actually exist and have influence over others. 

He did not do much wrong with just giving that opinion,you on the other hand has to make a personal attack on him for it.I do not share the same opinion as his but he has the freedom to talk about it without being targetted like that and no i do not see racist intention in his comment.

Bolded: Instead of choosing ignorance it can be a very learningfull experience to actually know what drives people into thinking different than you.



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Immersiveunreality said:
Alara317 said:

The things you say are so blatantly disgusting that I honestly can't tell if you're sincere or a troll. 

I've seen Onion articles with more believability than the nonsense you spew. The only way I can read your work and not want to leap through the internet to slap some sense into you is by assuming you're actually a liberal or at least reasonably minded person who created a hardcore alt-right persona to satirize the extremist views of the modern political right in the US. 

It's either that or your very existence is polluting the gene pool and making the world a worse place. I chose to believe the former. 

Please don't confirm or deny it either way. I'd chose ignorance over knowing people like you actually exist and have influence over others. 

He did not do much wrong with just giving that opinion,you on the other hand has to make a personal attack on him for it.I do not share the same opinion as his but he has the freedom to talk about it without being targetted like that and no i do not see racist intention in his comment.

Bolded: Instead of choosing ignorance it can be a very learningfull experience to actually know what drives people into thinking different than you.

Where in the quoted response did Alara317 claim that the post had racist intent? Ignorant, sure, but I don't see racist mentioned anywhere. And I think the claim "stronger borders= stronger economy" puts one well within the ignorant camp. 



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Torillian said:
Immersiveunreality said:

He did not do much wrong with just giving that opinion,you on the other hand has to make a personal attack on him for it.I do not share the same opinion as his but he has the freedom to talk about it without being targetted like that and no i do not see racist intention in his comment.

Bolded: Instead of choosing ignorance it can be a very learningfull experience to actually know what drives people into thinking different than you.

Where in the quoted response did Alara317 claim that the post had racist intent? Ignorant, sure, but I don't see racist mentioned anywhere. And I think the claim "stronger borders= stronger economy" puts one well within the ignorant camp. 

She did not,i said what i did see in and how it did not looked that offensive it but i phrased it poorly and should have used" bad intention"instead of that.



Immersiveunreality said:
Torillian said:

Where in the quoted response did Alara317 claim that the post had racist intent? Ignorant, sure, but I don't see racist mentioned anywhere. And I think the claim "stronger borders= stronger economy" puts one well within the ignorant camp. 

She did not,i said what i did see in and how it did not looked that offensive it but i phrased it poorly and should have used" bad intention"instead of that.

It's supposed to offend, in some ways. Not in a generically inflammatory sense, but in a way that's meant to make people realize just how terrible the things they believe are. 

It's not okay to think the things trump says and does are alright. IT's not okay to blanket-hate all brown and hispanic people. It's not okay to support neo-nazis and white nationalists. IT's not okay to use xenophobia as a platform for political change, just like it's not okay to say segregation was good or that women shouldn't vote or that gays shouldn't have the right to marry or that trans rights aren't human rights. Racism, sexism, and all sorts of various phobias and hate-speech are not okay. You're constitutionally allowed to voice your opinion, free speech says you're entitled to a voice, but that also means people like me are allowed to heavily criticize what you say and find the things you (and more specifically, Dark Lord) are despicable people who are actively working to make the world a worse place. 

I am NOT allowed to incite violence or criminal activity. I AM, however, allowed to say that I think that he (trump) and anyone who supports him are terrible people. Because they are. History will look back upon this era with scorn, as they rightly should. you can't stop progress and I chose to be on the right side of history. You and others should do the same by condemning those with abhorrent beliefs and who are actively seeking to take the rights away from others based on gender, race, or sexuality. 



Alara317 said:
Immersiveunreality said:

She did not,i said what i did see in and how it did not looked that offensive it but i phrased it poorly and should have used" bad intention"instead of that.

It's supposed to offend, in some ways. Not in a generically inflammatory sense, but in a way that's meant to make people realize just how terrible the things they believe are. 

It's not okay to think the things trump says and does are alright. IT's not okay to blanket-hate all brown and hispanic people. It's not okay to support neo-nazis and white nationalists. IT's not okay to use xenophobia as a platform for political change, just like it's not okay to say segregation was good or that women shouldn't vote or that gays shouldn't have the right to marry or that trans rights aren't human rights. Racism, sexism, and all sorts of various phobias and hate-speech are not okay. You're constitutionally allowed to voice your opinion, free speech says you're entitled to a voice, but that also means people like me are allowed to heavily criticize what you say and find the things you (and more specifically, Dark Lord) are despicable people who are actively working to make the world a worse place. 

I am NOT allowed to incite violence or criminal activity. I AM, however, allowed to say that I think that he (trump) and anyone who supports him are terrible people. Because they are. History will look back upon this era with scorn, as they rightly should. you can't stop progress and I chose to be on the right side of history. You and others should do the same by condemning those with abhorrent beliefs and who are actively seeking to take the rights away from others based on gender, race, or sexuality. 

"It's not okay to think the things trump says and does are alright. IT's not okay to blanket-hate all brown and hispanic people."

Yet it's ok to blanket hate Trump supporters? Do you have to support just one part of his cause to be a part of the entire 'problem'? Every single thing he does and says is inexcusable? So anyone who enjoys alcohol in some manner are terrible people because of the horrible things that can come from it, aside from any of the positives?

Were the Egyptians on the right side of history? The Romans? The British?



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The US President basically admitted in his declaration of a national emergency that there was no emergency and that he fully expects to get sued.

Even the far right smells what's up:

"The only emergency is that our President is an idiot" - Ann Coulter



I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.

Alara317 said:
Immersiveunreality said:

She did not,i said what i did see in and how it did not looked that offensive it but i phrased it poorly and should have used" bad intention"instead of that.

It's supposed to offend, in some ways. Not in a generically inflammatory sense, but in a way that's meant to make people realize just how terrible the things they believe are. 

It's not okay to think the things trump says and does are alright. IT's not okay to blanket-hate all brown and hispanic people. It's not okay to support neo-nazis and white nationalists. IT's not okay to use xenophobia as a platform for political change, just like it's not okay to say segregation was good or that women shouldn't vote or that gays shouldn't have the right to marry or that trans rights aren't human rights. Racism, sexism, and all sorts of various phobias and hate-speech are not okay. You're constitutionally allowed to voice your opinion, free speech says you're entitled to a voice, but that also means people like me are allowed to heavily criticize what you say and find the things you (and more specifically, Dark Lord) are despicable people who are actively working to make the world a worse place. 

I am NOT allowed to incite violence or criminal activity. I AM, however, allowed to say that I think that he (trump) and anyone who supports him are terrible people. Because they are. History will look back upon this era with scorn, as they rightly should. you can't stop progress and I chose to be on the right side of history. You and others should do the same by condemning those with abhorrent beliefs and who are actively seeking to take the rights away from others based on gender, race, or sexuality. 

I just think you blindly hate someone and it is sad that in your mind the world seems to be loaded with evil people, its a hopeless way of thinking.

Trump supporters are not automatically bad people and to have voted for him doesnt always stand equal to Racism,sexism and the phobias you mention but that seems a sad hysteria you and maybe people that surround you seems to envelop yourselves in.Also when darklord mentions he is happy about the wall being build he could just be thinking about less drugs or criminals coming in and even when that is not proven it just can be his belief when he does type that comment .

That condemning you like doing is only shutting down conversation and it only divides people into more groups, i do think it is more important to know the motivations of those persons

You can call me despicable for liking people from most sides and believings but it is a blessing i tell you and it provides a better source of information when being compared to echochambers and circlejerk political threads.

Thanks for the response and take care.



Immersiveunreality said:
Alara317 said:

It's supposed to offend, in some ways. Not in a generically inflammatory sense, but in a way that's meant to make people realize just how terrible the things they believe are. 

It's not okay to think the things trump says and does are alright. IT's not okay to blanket-hate all brown and hispanic people. It's not okay to support neo-nazis and white nationalists. IT's not okay to use xenophobia as a platform for political change, just like it's not okay to say segregation was good or that women shouldn't vote or that gays shouldn't have the right to marry or that trans rights aren't human rights. Racism, sexism, and all sorts of various phobias and hate-speech are not okay. You're constitutionally allowed to voice your opinion, free speech says you're entitled to a voice, but that also means people like me are allowed to heavily criticize what you say and find the things you (and more specifically, Dark Lord) are despicable people who are actively working to make the world a worse place. 

I am NOT allowed to incite violence or criminal activity. I AM, however, allowed to say that I think that he (trump) and anyone who supports him are terrible people. Because they are. History will look back upon this era with scorn, as they rightly should. you can't stop progress and I chose to be on the right side of history. You and others should do the same by condemning those with abhorrent beliefs and who are actively seeking to take the rights away from others based on gender, race, or sexuality. 

I just think you blindly hate someone and it is sad that in your mind the world seems to be loaded with evil people, its a hopeless way of thinking.

Trump supporters are not automatically bad people and to have voted for him doesnt always stand equal to Racism,sexism and the phobias you mention but that seems a sad hysteria you and maybe people that surround you seems to envelop yourselves in.Also when darklord mentions he is happy about the wall being build he could just be thinking about less drugs or criminals coming in and even when that is not proven it just can be his belief when he does type that comment .

That condemning you like doing is only shutting down conversation and it only divides people into more groups, i do think it is more important to know the motivations of those persons

You can call me despicable for liking people from most sides and believings but it is a blessing i tell you and it provides a better source of information when being compared to echochambers and circlejerk political threads.

Thanks for the response and take care.

Some on the left are just sounding so much like religious zealots. Just so close minded, no discussion and everyone else is the devil and evil incarnate. I mean just listen to them clump millions of people together as all evil racists, sexists, bigots and won't even attempt to have a discussion with them. They think the violent actions of groups like Antifa are warranted because they perceive they are fighting a worse evil adn so on. Nothig more scarier than someone who believes they are 100% on the right side.

I really do worry for the US. I can totally see us becoming like Venezuela in like 100 years. 



https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/trump-administration-launches-global-effort-end-criminalization-homosexuality-n973081
haha, fuck Iran.



jason1637 said:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/trump-administration-launches-global-effort-end-criminalization-homosexuality-n973081
haha, fuck Iran.

Interesting move and interesting reaction of yours. I wonder if Trump's intentions are sincere about decriminalising homosexuality or if this is just another trick to bring the Europeans on his side against the Iran.

Saudi Arabia and other US allies in the middle east are at least equally bad when it comes to criminalisation of homosexuals, let's see if they will be targetted equally hard.