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It was everyone else fault. Hillary did nothing wrong. She was perfect.



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The whole thing between her and Sanders was really silly. I would say that is what caused it. A lot of division was caused when the party became split between her and Sanders in that weird reality TV show thing they called a "primary" which did heavy damage to the unity of Democrat party voters. A lot of Democrat voters are, unfortunately, very childish, so when the pony they voted for doesn't win, they turn their back on the whole party even if it means the Republicans will win the real election. The big problem was the Bernie Bros took the loss way too personaly, and instead of supporting their party, they bought into all the anti-Clinton propaganda - much of it from the enemy Republican camp. Very little of the arguments were even about policy, it was about popularity, it became extremely stupid; an embarrassment to democracy.

On the other hand, Republicans still backed their party even if their pony didn't win their own reality TV show primary thing.

It was kind of sad to see the US descend into so much stupidity. I have read up extensively on the two parties, and Hillary Clinton and the Democrats were clearly much more qualified than Trump and the Republicans. There's a lot of environmental damage occurring right now because of the US, in addition, US military has been murdering people on orders of Trump in the Middle East as he ramps up more military forces to keep stability down, and militant fanaticism up. The US is becoming an enemy of civilization under Trump. I know not all of the US is at fault, but it seems the enemy has their shit more together than the good guys.

Nowadays, the core of the Republican Party is turning into Pro-Confederate white nationalists whose values can be described as hateful and evil. If there was another American civil war, I wouldn't be surprised if a portion of the Americans refused to support their country because Bernie Sanders lost some kind of vote-contestant-off reality TV show.



I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.

bonzobanana said:
The older you get the more you realise the type of people who want to be politicians should never be allowed to be politicians. I still see Hilary as the lesser evil of the two but accept my perspective here in the UK would not give me the complete picture. Diplomacy is a delicate business and I have less confidence in Trump stopping me getting irradiated than any previous president. I honestly think Hilary could do a better job of it of dealing with North Korea and the destabilising of that region that may lead to global tensions.

Sometimes a candidate comes along that is so poor and you have respect for the intelligence of voters that you feel you will win easily. Perhaps Hilary made that assumption.

Yeah, genuine people actually go out and make a difference. Only a few people who enter politics actually improve those around them.

 

 

OT- the elections are irrelevant. Surprised people still talk about it. Hillary and the dumpsters on r/t_d will probably be mentioning her loss during 2048 for christ's sake.



It's kind of sad how her and Trump were the only options. No one truly won in the end



The main problem is she seemed to just assume that people hated Trump so much that they would vote for her.



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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/sep/08/hillary-clinton-memoir-what-happened-election-trump-sanders

Clinton writes: “I go back over my own shortcomings and the mistakes we made. I take responsibility for all of them. You can blame the data, blame the message, blame anything you want but I was the candidate. It was my campaign. Those were my decisions.”

Sounds to me like she's not trying to dodge all responsibility contrary to what the title of this thread, "Hillary Clinton's memoir - it was Everyone Else Fault I lost...", might suggest.



I saw it on Audible, what a witch



My grammar errors are justified by the fact that I am a brazilian living in Brazil. I am also very stupid.

HomokHarcos said:
The main problem is she seemed to just assume that people hated Trump so much that they would vote for her.

The reality was: everyone hated HER so much that they voted for Trump =)



My grammar errors are justified by the fact that I am a brazilian living in Brazil. I am also very stupid.

If the people "hated" her so much then why did she win the popular vote by over 3 million?



Cosmo said:

If the people "hated" her so much then why did she win the popular vote by over 3 million?

Reality is Hillary winning the popular vote means nothing in the US electoral system..absolutely nothing... 

Hillary Clinton winning the popular votes means nothing as her support was largely in states that she would have won anyways...

I find it silly for Hillary fans to bitch about the Electoral college when the day before the election they were certain Trump could not break down Hillary Blue Wall.

It was such stupid confidence and hubris why your side lost...