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shikamaru317 said:
Yeah, it's pretty pathetic that she is playing the blame game now.

Not just now, she's been doing it ever since she lost



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LadyJasmine said:

 

palou said:

It's really a testament to how shitty the american electoral system is, if the 2 viable presidential candidates poll solidly and consistently bellow 40% with the public.

 

You have 3 groups really in the USA...

40% back Trump

40% back Hillary/Democrats

20% are pox on both your houses in the States these days...

I would just like to point out that Merkel and leader of the 2nd biggest party (now foreign minister) Sigmar Gabriel have an approval rating of 63% and 66%, respectively. The finance minister, Schäuble, has 62%, despite heavily emphasing on austerity (which is rarely popular.)

 

It's also why the upcoming election is somewhat boring. People are happy with their politicians, actually on both sides, so there's very little to debate about. 



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I win if Emmanuel Macron wins the french presidential election May 7th 2017.

More people wanted Hilary to win anyways. But they were both terrible candidates, as neither won by any significant margin. It is also hard to followup 8 years in one party without the other party having a significant advantage, and Trump still lost popular vote haha.



I disagree. She does have reasons to complain. The whole "emails" and the wikileaks "scandal" that was an actual nothing burger really lowered her popularity and most probably cost her the election.

Of course, her biggest problem was a messaging one. But she does have reason to complain.



She did win the popular vote but didn't get into the White House. That puzzles me to this day.



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Nem said:
I disagree. She does have reasons to complain. The whole "emails" and the wikileaks "scandal" that was an actual nothing burger really lowered her popularity and most probably cost her the election.

Of course, her biggest problem was a messaging one. But she does have reason to complain.

What about the access hollywood tape? Scandals go around and come around.



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KLAMarine said:
She did win the popular vote but didn't get into the White House. That puzzles me to this day.

She ran up the score in California. Trump won the same way Obama won the primaries in 2008, which was  by focusing on the right states (Hillary won the PV during the 2008 primaries).



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I don't care what people say about Hillary. I truly believe she would have been a great president, despite the bs opposition she would have had to put up with from the Republicans just because she was a Democratic president (just like Obama had to endure to no end). Her losing this election speaks more about the American public than anything about her if they either favored the most unqualified candidate in history (Trump) or would have rather not voted at all just because their original pick (Sanders) didn't get the nom. This current presidency is the saddest and most dangerous thing to happen to our country in a very long time, and it will take decades to overcome the damage Trump has and will cause our democracy.



ClassicGamingWizzz said:
LadyJasmine said:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/sep/08/hillary-clinton-memoir-what-happened-election-trump-sanders

I am getting a bit sick and tired of Hillary Clinton blaming everyone else...You lost against a supposed No body in 2008 and getting worn down by a 70-year-old Socialist and got beaten by the worst candidate in US history...

Its rather simple, Hillary was playing poker against a guy ( Trump) who had to get a royal flush and was lighting himself on fire every other day and simply had to win with a pair... and she still lost.

In the end,  her campaign made a fatal tactical made a stupid decision to not campaign in the Rust belt hard enough and if she did, she would have been President... simple as that.

It is rather Telling how tone deaf Hillary Clinton is as she has lower poll numbers than Trump and Trump are just pathetically bad.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/06/trump-public-opinion-better-than-hillary-clinton-242398

 

She even loses in defeat it seems ....

 

sigh...

What was your vote?

If I believe correctly she lives in Canada 



Who cares! Move on. You guys are really getting a kick out of someone who lost an election getting angry. She's the least of our worries at this moment.