We can look at the NX prediction threads. Also, never said most, and I specifically said I wasn't referring to most.

What I find funny is people telling off Lawlight (and a few others?), a ps fan, for saying it has to beat 3ds+wiiu combined, whereas they had no issue with those nintendo fans (don't know how many they were) who were predicting it would do more than 3ds+wiiu combined because it will attract both audiences. What changed? How was their opinion fine and remained unchallenged from fellow Ninty fans but a ps fan's same opinion is being attacked?

According to VGC, numbers in the year before and after launch (if launch was late in the year like November I count the year as pre-launch, if it was early in the year like March as after launch).

As you can see, all major hardware in recent gens that got a successor that was taken as such took a major hit to the sales. You see the biggest outlier is the PSP, the Vita didn't took off that hot, so probably not many PSP-owners saw the Vita as a viable successor. 3DS so far seems to be quite stable, while Vita seems to be affected. Give me different data to go by, and I may change my mind, but the data so far suggests that SO FAR people not taking Switch so much as a 3DS-successor, but as a Vita-successor.

Thank you, there is a readon why Law wasnt allowed to post in nintendo threads. And Naru ignored my post from before so i dont kno why he is carrying this through

Where are "all those Nintendo-fans"? In the thread, only 5.3% voted for 100M+. So you making up this horde of delusional Nintendo-fans to burn the strawmen. Yes, there is always a John Lucas with outrageous claims, but mostly the predictions were by far more moderate. So please stop making up "facts", that are just untrue.

I am one of those that did one of these claims, and I still believe it will do 100 millions plus, but that is different than saying it MEEDS 100 millions to be successful.The system can still be successful at 60 millions, for example, if its software sells exceptionally well.

how are those the same thing? saying you think something can sell a certain amount and saying it has to sell a certain amount are two different things.

"i think Switch will sell more than 3DS & Wii U combined and be successful."

"Switch has to sell more than 3DS & Wii U combined to be successful."

do you not see the difference?

No, I did not say that. What I said exactly was:

"It doesn't matter as which successor the selling company places a device, it matters what people make of it. Seemingly looking at the charts the japanese take the Switch as Vita-successor. 3DS isn't hurt so far by Switch."

I didn't say anything about the WiiU as you claim. I said that the numbers may suggest, that japanese people did so far see the Switch more as a successor to the Vita than the 3DS. You can argue, that the drop in Vita-numbers is unrelated to Switch (as we never will know), but the 3DS did hold stable. You go on that the PS2 stayed stable after PS3. Maybe, then PS3 probably wasn't seen as a valid successor of PS2 first. Exactly what I said. Sadly I have no PS2 numbers for that time, but in my other post I showed the most recent five systems that got an successor. They all dropped strongly in sales. Maybe the 3DS will drop too later in this year. That's why I said so far. I based my argument in data. Maybe you draw different conclusions, but you cannot so simply shoo away my argument with just an opinion.

ALL these Nintendo-fans in your first post just got downgraded to SOME people. Funny.

LOL. If 'all those Nintendo-fans' doesn't equal to most or whatever, you should be fine if someone says 'all these Sony-fans hating the Switch for no apparent reason'. Well no, this doesn't mean Sony-fans as a group, it only includes all these Sony-fans that hate the Switch for no apparent reason. LOL.

You can equate whatever you want. I'll stick to what I said.