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DarthMetalliCube on 02 March 2017

Completely not true. There might be a *slight* decline in scores, but at the end of the day, a great game is a great game. If your statement is true, the CDi Zelda games would have gotten good reviews.. Yeeah... 



 

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Kai_Mao on 02 March 2017

I don't know. You not only have to look at the name of the game title, but also the publisher and developer as well. I mean, Nintendo EAD (now EPD) has remained one of the best in the business in terms of developing big-time releases. From Galaxy to New Leaf to Splatoon to Pikmin to BotW.



Random_Matt on 02 March 2017

Duh, you are an idiot to think otherwise.
Zelda is not the only one.



Random_Matt on 02 March 2017
BraLoD said:

Brand is actually a very important factor on how people view something.
Brand can not only inflate a game score, but also its sales, as for example, people wouldn't even be talking about something like 1-2 Switch, if it wasn't made by Nintendo.

Now, there are more to it than just brand, Zelda as in your example, is a very, very beloved series, and it has been constantly delivering great games from what anyone can tell, but I have to agree, because Skyward Sword, which was a quite criticized game, still managed to score like Uncharted 4, which was a widely, and very strongly praised game, which is also from a very famous brand, by the way.

I don't think its nostalgia the point here, but that Nintendo games are reviewed on different standards, like indie games also are reviewed on different standards, and Zelda is also reviewed on a different standard by itself just as well, because of how good its track record is, it intimidates and pressures people to flock on the collective and also usual pattern.

I don't know if BotW will be a good game or not, it looks like it is, but I agree, if the exact same game by another developer was released, it wouldn't score nowhere near what I expect BotW to score, which doesn't mean it doesn't deserve it, again, I still don't know how good will it be, but that actual criticism would be way more present.

There are lots of different situations that have influency on game scores outside of just the game itself, and when we compare them all by a single crude number to see which is higher, lots of them will seem unfair, because of the different standards they are judged by.

Don't think Nintendo fans will listen.



Otter on 02 March 2017

I actually think a bit of the opposite.

Games from established, quality franchises are also judged more harshly than titles which come out of no where. People reviewing BOTW aren't just going to appreciate it for what it is, they're going to compare to past Zelda's, which likely have more nostalgia backing them.



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Goodnightmoon on 02 March 2017
Random_Matt said:
BraLoD said:

Brand is actually a very important factor on how people view something.
Brand can not only inflate a game score, but also its sales, as for example, people wouldn't even be talking about something like 1-2 Switch, if it wasn't made by Nintendo.

Now, there are more to it than just brand, Zelda as in your example, is a very, very beloved series, and it has been constantly delivering great games from what anyone can tell, but I have to agree, because Skyward Sword, which was a quite criticized game, still managed to score like Uncharted 4, which was a widely, and very strongly praised game, which is also from a very famous brand, by the way.

I don't think its nostalgia the point here, but that Nintendo games are reviewed on different standards, like indie games also are reviewed on different standards, and Zelda is also reviewed on a different standard by itself just as well, because of how good its track record is, it intimidates and pressures people to flock on the collective and also usual pattern.

I don't know if BotW will be a good game or not, it looks like it is, but I agree, if the exact same game by another developer was released, it wouldn't score nowhere near what I expect BotW to score, which doesn't mean it doesn't deserve it, again, I still don't know how good will it be, but that actual criticism would be way more present.

There are lots of different situations that have influency on game scores outside of just the game itself, and when we compare them all by a single crude number to see which is higher, lots of them will seem unfair, because of the different standards they are judged by.

Don't think Nintendo fans will listen.



RJ_Sizzle on 02 March 2017

No use it fightin' it, bro. Zelda is what Zelda is. It's just time to play it.



Stellar_Fungk on 02 March 2017

It's like saying that the Pet Sound album would not be held to a high regard if it did not have the name band name Beach Boys attached to the album name.



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onionberry on 02 March 2017



Flilix on 02 March 2017
Otter said:
I actually think a bit of the opposite.

Games from established, quality franchises are also judged more harshly than titles which come out of no where. People reviewing BOTW aren't just going to appreciate it for what it is, they're going to compare to past Zelda's, which likely have more nostalgia backing them.

For some reviewers it's like you say, for others it's like the OP says. But I don't think it would make more than 1 point difference in metascore