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Chris Hu on 28 December 2016

The Cult of Dusty actually make a pretty funny indirect response video to that MTV video.



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Torillian on 28 December 2016
KLAMarine said:
SpokenTruth said:

Of course it's not limited to a single skin color.  However, we're not talking about pride in historical European scientific discovery and artistic expression when you talk about white pride.  

Google white pride and black pride and you tell me what you find.   The former provides results heavily founded in hubris and hate (practically nothing on European science and art).  The latter about rising up and succeeding against systemic institutions designed to oppress.

You didn't answer my questions: Is it impossible that white pride is a "look at what European civilization has achieved through the arts and the sciences" sentiment? Is it similarly impossible that black pride is just as capable as enforcing a "we are better than you" mentality?

Additionally, is black pride incapable of reinforcing a resentment or hatred for whites?

Considering that for the majority of white pride is about white supremacy (based on the common definition and who participates), and the vast majority of black pride is not about black supremacy I feel like if you want to talk about white pride but don't want people to assume you are a white supremacist then you have to have a separate subdivision.  Say something like "I have white pride, but not the kind the KKK have that most people think of when you say white pride".  But if all you do is say "I have white pride, oh you think it's the kind like the KKK does well you're the racist really!" then you're just being a contrarian asshole.  It's disingenuous to use the term white pride and ignore it's common definition to substitute your own, and then be angry at people who assume you were meaning the common definition.  This is how I see this white pride argument used by alt right guys and its infuriatingly dishonest.  



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Lawlight on 28 December 2016

What about Asian Pride? Are Asians fighting against oppression too?



LadyJasmine on 28 December 2016

It okay to be proud of your culture and background but not to think your better for it .



Normchacho on 28 December 2016
LadyJasmine said:
It okay to be proud of your culture and background but not to think your better for it .

This. A lot of my family is Italian, I don't go around taking credit for the Piano.



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Lawlight on 29 December 2016

There's no such thing as "systematic" racism.



bouzane on 29 December 2016
Lawlight said:
There's no such thing as "systematic" racism.

Sure there is, it's called affirmative action.



Qwark on 30 December 2016
Lawlight said:
There's no such thing as "systematic" racism.

Sure there is but usually it's not enough of a big deal to care about to begin with. Like the fact that Asian characters are rarely seen in Western media and more than 75% of the cast is usually white. Marvel even added a fucking Android earlier to the avengers than an Asian person. Anyway it's things you and I couldn't care less about. Also many marriages happen between the same race which is also a form of systemic racism. Some people like to bitch about that stuff. Or that an Asian or a White male on average makes more money than a black person or a female without taking any other statistics in mind. God praise the wage gap.



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Lawlight on 30 December 2016
SpokenTruth said:
Lawlight said:
There's no such thing as "systematic" racism.

Systemic, not systematic.

Yeah, sure. The "system"...



Lawlight on 30 December 2016
Qwark said:
Lawlight said:
There's no such thing as "systematic" racism.

Sure there is but usually it's not enough of a big deal to care about to begin with. Like the fact that Asian characters are rarely seen in Western media and more than 75% of the cast is usually white. Marvel even added a fucking Android earlier to the avengers than an Asian person. Anyway it's things you and I couldn't care less about. Also many marriages happen between the same race which is also a form of systemic racism. Some people like to bitch about that stuff. Or that an Asian or a White male on average makes more money than a black person or a female without taking any other statistics in mind. God praise the wage gap.

Wrong. 

http://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/newshour/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/film-diversity-1024x538.jpg

And just because people can choose who to marry doesn't mean that's "systemic racism". Also, is the Hulk Asian now?

And people are still pushing the wage gap myth?