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Volterra_90 on 24 August 2016
Goodnightmoon said:

For a list made out of 177 critics around the planet is impressive how little hipsterism is on it.

Let's be honest here, the only people that would think this list is very hipster is mostly people that knows little to nothing about the subject, it is actually a great test to perceive those who never watches anything outside hollywood blockbusters and yet have the balls to call hipster to everything else simply cause they don't get it.

Is like if someone spend his life eating McDonalds everyday and then suddlenly someone gives him a Paella and then he goes like what is this shitty food? Where is the Ketchup, the fat meat and the melted cheese??  what a shit for snobs and hipsters!! And critics think Paella is better than McDonalds? They know nothing, they are just pretentious people!

Yep, exactly. There are a lot of Pixar movies, Mad Max, The Dark Knight, The Wolf of Wall Street... And those were blockbusters. Nothing wrong about it, they're great films imo. But they're far from "hipstery", obviously. 

Vinther1991 said:

To me, what Tree of Life was trying to show was: What makes us who we are? So naturally there is this whole universe creation scene, dynosaurs etc, to show where the whole species and our environment come from. Then the film zooms in on a specific individual, and shows how life events form that person, upbringing, major events etc. I think it's a terrific movie.

I think I get how the whole creation scene fits with the family drama. More or less. It felt a bit out of place imo, but, yeah, I could dig that. I really don't know what's the deal about those beach scenes. And the family drama felt... weak (Boyhood on the other hand nailed it imo). Nothing outstanding about it imo. It's a totally different way of making movies, and the fact is that I just don't get it. I feel good knowing that I'm not alone XD. I get Fynch for example, I love him, but Malick... 



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Goodnightmoon on 24 August 2016
Chris Hu said:
Slimebeast said:

No. Please don't misunderstand.

All the movies are certainly not pretentious. I said the list is pretentious, overall.

These movies are in my opinion very good:

No country for old men
Mad Max: Fury Road
Pan's Labyrinth (this movie is good despite being pretentious and very "cultural critic")
A history of violence
A.I.
Finding Nemo

Inception was okay, Inglorious basterds is okay or even good (but the worst Tarantino movie). 25th Hour had glimpses of good in it but Spike Lee is clearly among the pretentious directors.

I wouldn't say Spike Lee is a bad director but he is better in directing documentaries then life action stuff since this is pretty much his best work to date:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0783612/?ref_=nm_flmg_dr_25

No is not, Have you even watched that docu or are you just looking at the scores? Because Is easy for a film with 3.000 votes to have a higher score than a movie with 150.000, not that it really matters when it come to qualify a film anyways, but 25th hour is way better than a TV documentary about Katrina that not only nobody remembers, is actually among his less important works ever.



LurkerJ on 24 August 2016
Chris Hu said:
LurkerJ said:

So you basically just like to lable things beyond good and bad, it's ok, we're good friends after all.

All the movies I metioned have a way higher critics metascore then A.I.  If you go by critics metascore A.I. is not even in Spielbergs top 10.

I am not dismissing the movies you listed. I just really loved A.I :) 

and most of the time, I don't check scores.



Cirio on 24 August 2016

I really don't understand how any of the Lord of the Rings movies did not make the list. Like, how is it even possible? Each movie in the trilogy is universally acclaimed and the trilogy has won many Oscars and was nominated for so many. The trilogy really kick-started this century and has proven to pass the test of time. It's really absurd.



Chris Hu on 24 August 2016
Goodnightmoon said:
Chris Hu said:

I wouldn't say Spike Lee is a bad director but he is better in directing documentaries then life action stuff since this is pretty much his best work to date:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0783612/?ref_=nm_flmg_dr_25

No is not, Have you even watched that docu or are you just looking at the scores? Because Is easy to have a higher score with 3000 votes than a movie with 150000, not that it really matters when it come to qualify a film anyways, but 25th hour is way better than a documentary about Katrina that nobody remembers.

Just because more people saw it and it got more votes doesn't mean its a better movie.  Pretty much everyone would agree that Do the Right Thing is a better movie then 25th Hour and that got a lot less votes also.



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Goodnightmoon on 24 August 2016
Chris Hu said:
Goodnightmoon said:

No is not, Have you even watched that docu or are you just looking at the scores? Because Is easy to have a higher score with 3000 votes than a movie with 150000, not that it really matters when it come to qualify a film anyways, but 25th hour is way better than a documentary about Katrina that nobody remembers.

Just because more people saw it and it got more votes doesn't mean its a better movie.  Pretty much everyone would agree that Do the Right Thing is a better movie then 25th Hour and that got a lot less votes also.

Is not about a slight difference, we are talking about a movie having 50 times more votes than the other and one being a TV docu when the other is a Drama for Cinema, those scores are simply incomparable. And with that answer I have to assume that you didn't saw it, you are just relying on the scores, wich is completely wrong.

As for the bolded part, 25th hours has always been more praised and remembered through time than Do the right thing, I don't even know where are you getting that "pretty much everyone" part of the sentence, is a great movie sure, but as far as I'm concerned the popular opinion is that 25th hour is the better movie and I do agree.



Chris Hu on 24 August 2016
Goodnightmoon said:
Chris Hu said:

Just because more people saw it and it got more votes doesn't mean its a better movie.  Pretty much everyone would agree that Do the Right Thing is a better movie then 25th Hour and that got a lot less votes also.

Is not about a slight difference, we are talking about a movie having 50 times more votes than the other and one being a TV docu when the other is a Drama for Cinema. And with that answer I have to assume that no, you didn't saw it, you are just relying on the scores, wich is completely wrong.

As for the bolded part, 25th hours has always been more praised and remebered through time than doing the right thing, I don't even know where are you getting that "pretty much everyone" part of the sentence, is a great movie sure, but as far as I'm concerned the popular opinion is that 25th hour is the better movie and I do agree.

According to popular opion 25th Hour might be a better movie but critically speaking Do the Right Thing is a much better movie and like the Katrina documentary it is also socially much more significant then 25th Hour.



Goodnightmoon on 24 August 2016
Chris Hu said:
Goodnightmoon said:

Is not about a slight difference, we are talking about a movie having 50 times more votes than the other and one being a TV docu when the other is a Drama for Cinema. And with that answer I have to assume that no, you didn't saw it, you are just relying on the scores, wich is completely wrong.

As for the bolded part, 25th hours has always been more praised and remebered through time than doing the right thing, I don't even know where are you getting that "pretty much everyone" part of the sentence, is a great movie sure, but as far as I'm concerned the popular opinion is that 25th hour is the better movie and I do agree.

According to popular opion 25th Hour might be a better movie but critically speaking Do the Right Think is a much better movie and like the Katrina documentary it is also socially much more significant then 25th Hour.

No is not, and how socially significan those movies are is completely irrelevant. Also I don't know where are you getting from that Do the right thing is critically more acclaimed than 25th hour because that is just not true, I think you are only basing your opinions in the scores you see on metacritic, time has passed, the same critics that said Pulp Fiction was shit (a lot of them actually) now say is the best movie of the 90's, don't rely on old critic reviews when talking about classics.



Natsu on 24 August 2016

I've seen WALL-E...



Chris Hu on 24 August 2016
Goodnightmoon said:
Chris Hu said:

According to popular opion 25th Hour might be a better movie but critically speaking Do the Right Think is a much better movie and like the Katrina documentary it is also socially much more significant then 25th Hour.

No is not, and how socially significan those movies are is completely irrelevant. Also I don't know where are you getting from that Do the right thing is critically more acclaimed than 25th hour that is just not true, you are clearly basing your opinions only in the scores you see on metacritic, but time has passed, the same critics that said Pulp Fiction was shit now say is the best movie of the 90's, don't rely in old critics reviews when we talk about classics.

Do the Right Thing was critically acclaimed when it was first released it make the top spot on both Gene Siskel and Roger Ebert top ten movie list of 1989.