I was going to buy the slim, but not if there releasing a 6tf console next year.

Its going to be funny when gamers start saying graphics dont matter if these rumours are true lol

Why? What insight do you have that backs up that point of view? QA has gotten progressively worse. Games have increasing been released in states that would been unacceptable just a few years ago. How is making the development environment more complicated going to make things better?

That would be giveing up the Xbox One & PS4 gen though.

If Sony has 2,5 years with a Neo model, and MS has nothing.... thats gonna look bad.

Digital foundry will have the XB1 version showing the game, running next to the Neo one, and it ll be a massive differnce.

They ll compete, and the "real" next gen, Playstation 5  & Xbox Two (or three whatever they name it) will be around 2020.

I will believe it when I see it.

2018 will mark 5 years on the calender and support will of course continue beyond that just as it did for 360. Microsoft wouldn't be offering "nothing" because they'll be new Xbox One SKU's, just not ones differentiate by power or a higher price point. The digital foundry comparisons are going to exist anyway as it seems Neo is launching before this, by potentially as much as a year. Regardless I don't think digital foundry comparisons would have a big impact on anything if Microsoft is actively taregeting lower entry price point in 2017 (they kind of have no choice) whilst actively trying to keeping their existing audience satisified with exclusive content. 

My overwhelming feeling is as you alluded to at the beginning, Xbox One is not some massively successful cash cow which ought to be milked for 8 years. It has a roof in terms of sales and impact, arguably the "Xbox One" brand is toxified somewhat, its already down YOY in the UK which was one of its more favourable markets. I think its smart for them to move on sooner rather than later, not just apply a bandaid and milk it some more. Do as they did with the OG Xbox in 2005 and beat sony to the mark. Chasing behind the market leader and doing a "me too" 6-12months later does not sound like a smart plan. Whatever they're doing they should be ahead of sony which is why I think a whole new console ushering in the next generations makes more sense. We'll have to wait and see...

I think the PS4 Neo caught Microsoft off guard, they wherent expecting it, or didnt have time to react to it properly.

As a result, they ll be a year behinde. They spent more on R&D than sony too (tv stick, tv mini console, XBO slim, XBO-ii).

Its just Sony being on point, and MS a step or two behinde.

I still wish they don't release any more powerful Xbox One next year, and stick with the concept of console that I love. Stick with One at least 2 more years, please don't follow that path.

Precisely, I'm not a against a new version of the Xbox One but it would have to be ahead of the Neo to make sense. Now they've got to be very careful about what they do next

I actually think this XBox 2 has been in development longer than Neo.

It put Sony in a weird spot, where they obviously don't want this gen to end so early, whereas MS has no such qualms.

Sony slapped together Neo quickly by merely doubling the CUs on the PS4 GPU.

If anything it wouldn't surprise me if Neo is the product being rushed to market because Sony does not want to make a PS5 so soon but they caught wind of XB2. MS seems to view the upgraded XBox as more of a successor and a large scale change to their entire hardware business (upgradable consoles, Win10 cross platform, etc.), so it will be a large change to their hardware business, not just a "XBox 1.5" as Phil Spencer mentioned. 

Thats not how people are seeing it now though.

People are refering to it as the Xbox One-ii (the one-two) (whats between a one and a two? 1.5).

Also their saying the reason Sony didnt do a slim is because AMD doesnt have older cpu & gpu designs at 16nm FinFETs.

They only have newer cpu & gpu designs for that proccess node.

Thats why Sony went for a PS4 Neo, because AMD went "that would be stupid and cost alot" "why dont you just use these designs we already have?"

So sony just slapped together a newer CPU & GPU (its still x86 & GCN) so there wont be compatability issues.

If Sonys PS4neo is 4.2 Tflops vs 5.3 Tflops of the Xbox One-ii, then that close enough in performance that most people probably wont be wowed by it.

Thats only a 26% differnce (the differnce between PS4 & Xbox One is about 40%).

That 1 year lead is gonna feel like along time.