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I'm from the future and one of these 2 fools will be your new president. Enjoy America!



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FallingTitan said:
I'm from the future and one of these 2 fools will be your new president. Enjoy America!

But did Hillary mess things up? or did Trump manage to build his wall? and maybe kick start the 3rd world war?



People always try to make everything Hillary says about her character. I don't like her either, but the point remains: what she said is obviously true.



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Shadow1980 said:

He's qualified only in the Constitutional sense, i.e., he's at least 35 years old, is a natural-born citizen of the United States, and has been a U.S. resident for at least 14 years. Other than that, he's no more qualified to be President than I am. Being a businessman doesn't necessarily make one a good politician. The skills don't necessarily translate, plus governments are not the same kind of institution as businesses are. Governments are non-profit, and in a democratic federal republic like the U.S., the power structure is much different from the nigh-totalitarian structure of the typical corporation, where power is completely top-down. The President can't just go around saying "You're fired!" to everyone, except maybe his own cabinet. Trump possesses exactly zero experience in any government office, not Congress, not a state legislature, not a city council, not as a governor or mayor. He has no formal education in law. He never served in the military. He isn't even that great of a businessman. His greatest accomplishment is probably being a WWE Hall of Fame inductee.

We've had a couple of other businessmen as President before, namely the Bushes, who made their millions in the oil industry. But unlike Trump they had prior experience in politics. Bush, Sr. was at various times a congressman, CIA director, ambassador to the UN, RNC chairman, and Vice President, and Dubya was governor of Texas. Even with those qualifications, the Bushes weren't exactly paragons of fiscal responsibility when they were President. Aside from them, "businessman" was never really a profession of men who became President. The majority of past presidents were lawyers, and they usually had some kind of military experience and/or experience in other major government offices. In other words, they had at least some working knowledge, either through education or experience, of at least some of the things you'd expect a President to know. By that standard, Trump is a "know-nothing" in more than one sense.

This. He has no experience at all with politics, so why should he be elected to office?

Well, the appeal of someone who is fresh to government is that they're not yet corrupted by the evils of the system. 

Now, that fresh person probably shouldn't be President, but holding a job for several years doesn't mean you're going to be great another similar position. Although, I don't see why Trump not being a politician is a talking point. He uses that to market himself.



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barneystinson69 said:

This. He has no experience at all with politics, so why should he be elected to office?

One of United States founding fathers, George Washington (first POTUS) had no experience in politics prior to his presidency ... 

Many may see it as Donald Trump's weakness but I along with many out there see it as a virtue since it'll make many government officials sweat and that he's a potential reset point ... 



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As is she, although she is a bit less dangerous and a bit more qualified than Trump, anyway good job of voting Bernie and the smarter Bush away, which where way better candidates.



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barneystinson69 said:
Shadow1980 said:

He's qualified only in the Constitutional sense, i.e., he's at least 35 years old, is a natural-born citizen of the United States, and has been a U.S. resident for at least 14 years. Other than that, he's no more qualified to be President than I am. Being a businessman doesn't necessarily make one a good politician. The skills don't necessarily translate, plus governments are not the same kind of institution as businesses are. Governments are non-profit, and in a democratic federal republic like the U.S., the power structure is much different from the nigh-totalitarian structure of the typical corporation, where power is completely top-down. The President can't just go around saying "You're fired!" to everyone, except maybe his own cabinet. Trump possesses exactly zero experience in any government office, not Congress, not a state legislature, not a city council, not as a governor or mayor. He has no formal education in law. He never served in the military. He isn't even that great of a businessman. His greatest accomplishment is probably being a WWE Hall of Fame inductee.

We've had a couple of other businessmen as President before, namely the Bushes, who made their millions in the oil industry. But unlike Trump they had prior experience in politics. Bush, Sr. was at various times a congressman, CIA director, ambassador to the UN, RNC chairman, and Vice President, and Dubya was governor of Texas. Even with those qualifications, the Bushes weren't exactly paragons of fiscal responsibility when they were President. Aside from them, "businessman" was never really a profession of men who became President. The majority of past presidents were lawyers, and they usually had some kind of military experience and/or experience in other major government offices. In other words, they had at least some working knowledge, either through education or experience, of at least some of the things you'd expect a President to know. By that standard, Trump is a "know-nothing" in more than one sense.

This. He has no experience at all with politics, so why should he be elected to office?

Because people vote for him :p



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Soundwave said:
Azuren said:

Excuse me? The topic here in this thread was clearly the hypocrisy of Hillary saying those things about ANYONE. Don't try to hijack this thread into ANOTHER Trump hate thread when there aren't nearly enough Hillary hate threads.

 

Full disclosure: They're both gigantic pieces of shit. 

This is kind of two different things here. You may not like Hilary, some people may not like her personality. To be a successful politican at some level you need to play a little dirty ... if politics was a sport, it'd be UFC or NFL football or NHL hockey ... a contact sport, not figure skating or gymastics. 

Some people despise that, but it is the nature of the position IMO. 

Hilary is qualified to be president and uniquely qualified actually because she had a first hand seat of the presidency for 8 years (a fairly succssful one at that) on top of her other experience. 

She may not be a "great" president, but she's not likely to burn the place down either. That's not a great campaign slogan, but it's probably the truth. 

Hilary Clinton targetting Trump for his inexperience and "dangerous" temperment is fair game. She has a lot more experience than he does and seems a lot more even headed, that's not to say she's an angel or little miss perfect or whatever, but those are kind of two different topics. 

I'm sorry, but comments like this absolutely disgust me. 

 

Politics is not a contact sport. Politics isn't a sport. Politics is a debate, but instead of debating they throw shade and sling mud. They resort to BULLSHIT that would actually get you kicked out of debate. Completely meaningless drivel that has no place being somewhere as important as Congress. Politics, as it is, is a disgusting, festering cesspool of degenerates and criminals who sell themselves to the highest bidder. Defend or condone, even in the apathetic "nothing we can do about it" sense again and I'll simply terminate the conversation. 

 

Plenty of people were present to view the presidency numerous times and turned out to be horrible-to-mediocre presidents. Off the top of my head, Bush. That said, being wide to one of the greatest presidents ever in no way entitles you to being a good president. It's clear from her campaign that, despite what (half of) the left will say, Hillary is no better a choice than Trump. 

 

As far as experience is concerned, Trump had kept a multi-billion dollar empire afloat (in spite of setbacks that everyone is rather quick to point out in the face of overwhelming success) for quite some time now. In the mean time, Hillary became (an awful) senator. Just because Trump is Lucifer doesn't mean Hillary isn't Beelzebub. They're both outright awful choices, and no matter how you slice it America is in for another rough 4-8 years.

 

 

Side note: At least if Trump or Bernie win, we're not still owned by Goldman Sachs 



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Azuren said:
Soundwave said:

This is kind of two different things here. You may not like Hilary, some people may not like her personality. To be a successful politican at some level you need to play a little dirty ... if politics was a sport, it'd be UFC or NFL football or NHL hockey ... a contact sport, not figure skating or gymastics. 

Some people despise that, but it is the nature of the position IMO. 

Hilary is qualified to be president and uniquely qualified actually because she had a first hand seat of the presidency for 8 years (a fairly succssful one at that) on top of her other experience. 

She may not be a "great" president, but she's not likely to burn the place down either. That's not a great campaign slogan, but it's probably the truth. 

Hilary Clinton targetting Trump for his inexperience and "dangerous" temperment is fair game. She has a lot more experience than he does and seems a lot more even headed, that's not to say she's an angel or little miss perfect or whatever, but those are kind of two different topics. 

I'm sorry, but comments like this absolutely disgust me. 

 

Politics is not a contact sport. Politics isn't a sport. Politics is a debate, but instead of debating they throw shade and sling mud. They resort to BULLSHIT that would actually get you kicked out of debate. Completely meaningless drivel that has no place being somewhere as important as Congress. Politics, as it is, is a disgusting, festering cesspool of degenerates and criminals who sell themselves to the highest bidder. Defend or condone, even in the apathetic "nothing we can do about it" sense again and I'll simply terminate the conversation. 

 

Plenty of people were present to view the presidency numerous times and turned out to be horrible-to-mediocre presidents. Off the top of my head, Bush. That said, being wide to one of the greatest presidents ever in no way entitles you to being a good president. It's clear from her campaign that, despite what (half of) the left will say, Hillary is no better a choice than Trump. 

 

As far as experience is concerned, Trump had kept a multi-billion dollar empire afloat (in spite of setbacks that everyone is rather quick to point out in the face of overwhelming success) for quite some time now. In the mean time, Hillary became (an awful) senator. Just because Trump is Lucifer doesn't mean Hillary isn't Beelzebub. They're both outright awful choices, and no matter how you slice it America is in for another rough 4-8 years.

 

 

Side note: At least if Trump or Bernie win, we're not still owned by Goldman Sachs 

Politics is an ugly game, I know maybe people don't like it characterized that way but that's just how it is. 

Goldman Sachs will still have influence (particularily on Trump who has no real tanigable policy that he actually sticks to other than China is bad, and he'll probably back off that too once he realizes fucking with China is probably not smart) no matter who is president. To say that Trump would anti Wall Street banks is laughable, he'd do the same thing Clinton does maybe even moreso. 

It's president, not king or queen or czar. They have limited power. Unfortunately corporations have overwhelming power no matter what because money is power on this planet right now. 

Maybe in some Star Trek utopia like future things will be different, but that's past our life time most likely.

Generally what I'm saying is there's this dilenation I think between the person being president should be a "nice person who makes you feel good", but that isn't actually a neccessity for getting anything done. I don't have to like my electrican when my power goes out, I just want to know that he knows what he/she is doing when they are doing the repair. 

Clinton is not Mrs. Charisma or likable, she has made mistakes (like any long serving politican, find me one with a spotless track record who's been in high ranking positions of power for a long time). That said she is experienced, uniquely so probably because she was first lady for 8 years of a very successful presidency. Say what you want, but she wouldn't be some green novice having to learn things on the fly from day 1. She's had almost 25 years to prep for the job and is reasonably intelligent and thoughtful (doesn't mean she's right all the time, but there does seem to be a logical thought process there, Trump is wildly erratic). 



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