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SpokenTruth said:
Cubedramirez said:
I say yes. Let's see how someone who has to make their living outside of government takes a crack at running the country. Can't do any worse than the last two we've had.

Actually, he can do worse.  A lot worse.



Considering how God awful these last 8 years were which I didn't think it was possible to top the previous 8 you may have a point. However I'll take that chance because it is beyond logic to continue employeeing the same people responsible for the crap we're in thinking they'll solve the problem. Anyone honestly thinking that voting someone who has spent their entire career in Washington has the answer is lying to themselves on levels unthinkable to a normal mind. 



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Jimbo1337 said:
Scoobes said:

The insult was directed at Trump and the website owner.

And American politics unfortunately has a major effect on the rest of the world. Even if it's a joke and we can't directly influence the vote, the rest of us have to pay attention.



So do you think it is a fantastic idea for your country to have thousands of people sign a petition to ban one of the presidential candidates (Trump)? 

Got the message across didn't it? Not like the British can directly influence the vote.





Cubedramirez said:
SpokenTruth said:
Cubedramirez said:
I say yes. Let's see how someone who has to make their living outside of government takes a crack at running the country. Can't do any worse than the last two we've had.

Actually, he can do worse.  A lot worse.



Considering how God awful these last 8 years were which I didn't think it was possible to top the previous 8 you may have a point. However I'll take that chance because it is beyond logic to continue employeeing the same people responsible for the crap we're in thinking they'll solve the problem. Anyone honestly thinking that voting someone who has spent their entire career in Washington has the answer is lying to themselves on levels unthinkable to a normal mind. 

 

What exactly is so "godawful" about the last 8 years anyway? The economy has largely recovered from the collapse in 2008. The housing market is back. By and large there's been no major terror attack, nothing even remotely close to a 9/11. There's been at least some progress in getting health care to more people that didn't have it before.

People who think China and Russia are doing so great ... go live in China or Russia as an average middle class person and then come back to me and tell me your quality of life is better. 

The main thing I'd say that's really, really awful about American society are the mass shootings and there's no easy solution to that unfortunately, but little kids shouldn't be getting gunned down going to school, that's just not normal. That and racism is still an issue in America, but that's going to be a long, ugly tread, unfortunately. I think the best that can be done is to hope that each successive generation is less racist than their parents, and I think that is happening. 



I don't have any issues with him. My big brother worked for him here in NY for 20 years. Bought his house and raised 2 kids off that income and we are black immigrants........ I know, most of that had to do with the managers that manage his business, but it was Trumps money. He has a smart mouth, at the end of the day the dude put food on the table for lots of people he should be considered.



Scoobes said:
Jimbo1337 said:
Scoobes said:

The insult was directed at Trump and the website owner.

And American politics unfortunately has a major effect on the rest of the world. Even if it's a joke and we can't directly influence the vote, the rest of us have to pay attention.



So do you think it is a fantastic idea for your country to have thousands of people sign a petition to ban one of the presidential candidates (Trump)? 

Got the message across didn't it? Not like the British can directly influence the vote.



Yeah it really did send a message.  The message that three hours of parliamentary time had to be wasted on what I and many others would consider the most asinine debate in modern politcal history.





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I hope he does just cause maybe people will start to realize how ridiculous our political system is.



Jimbo1337 said:
Scoobes said:
Jimbo1337 said:
Scoobes said:

The insult was directed at Trump and the website owner.

And American politics unfortunately has a major effect on the rest of the world. Even if it's a joke and we can't directly influence the vote, the rest of us have to pay attention.



So do you think it is a fantastic idea for your country to have thousands of people sign a petition to ban one of the presidential candidates (Trump)? 

Got the message across didn't it? Not like the British can directly influence the vote.



Yeah it really did send a message.  The message that three hours of parliamentary time had to be wasted on what I and many others would consider the most asinine debate in modern politcal history.

It sends a message to UK politicians that their constituents don't like Trump and that UK politicians better grow a spine in their dealings with Trump should he ever become US preseident.

It also sends a message to your politicians and people that your closest ally in the West thinks one of your presidential candidates is stupid. Even our right-wing politicians are publicly calling him such now.

Might have taken 3 hours but all politicians have wasted time (and money) on other pointless ventures.



SpokenTruth said:
loy310 said:

I don't have any issues with him. My big brother worked for him here in NY for 20 years. Bought his house and raised 2 kids off that income and we are black immigrants........ I know, most of that had to do with the managers that manage his business, but it was Trumps money. He has a smart mouth, at the end of the day the dude put food on the table for lots of people he should be considered.

Slave owners put food on the table for millions of people too.



far from it





Scoobes said:
Jimbo1337 said:
Scoobes said:

Got the message across didn't it? Not like the British can directly influence the vote.

Yeah it really did send a message.  The message that three hours of parliamentary time had to be wasted on what I and many others would consider the most asinine debate in modern politcal history.

It sends a message to UK politicians that their constituents don't like Trump and that UK politicians better grow a spine in their dealings with Trump should he ever become US preseident.

It also sends a message to your politicians and people that your closest ally in the West thinks one of your presidential candidates is stupid. Even our right-wing politicians are publicly calling him such now.

Might have taken 3 hours but all politicians have wasted time (and money) on other pointless ventures.

I believe you said it best:
"Not like the British can directly influence the vote".  

Which is exactly my point.  I am glad you agree with me.





I'll be very sad if Donald trump wins tonight... I don't even want to think about what that would say about our political system...