Mace Windu is cool for the reason Fynn isn't. But you fail to understand that. I understood very well that you much rather prefer shitty and weak characters rather than the likes of jedis. Fynn looks like he is coming straight out of Greys Anatomy or some other stupid sitcoms.

Mace Windu added depth to the old jedi council and looked like a true hero, that's why people liked him.

Abrams had nothing to do with LOST outside of the initial concept/pilot. You do realize that don't you? 

Any young, competent director is better than Lucas of today. Abrams, Rian Johnson, even the Jurassic World guy. 

Lucas lost his shit a loooooong time ago. 

Disney paid $4 billion for this thing, they will do whatever the hell they want with it, but that's a separate issue. It does say something though does it not when money-grubbing Disney was willing to delay the movie by several months and miss out on the lucrative summer movie season just to NOT use George Lucas' ideas. 

Episode VII could have been out last summer if they used Lucas' treatment, rather than going in a different direction. Speaks volumes that they were willing to probably lose some money just to get away from Lucas' ideas. 

He's likable to comic book types because he has a purple lightsaber. Ooooh. Ahhh. There's NO FREAKING CHARACTER there in the prequels. What's his personality? None. Nada. I felt so freaking bad for Sam Jackson, he looked like a deer in the headlights in those movies, there's *nothing* in those scripts for him to work with at all. Nothing. 

Dude was on a blue screen set talking to a tennis ball, being directed by someone who has no idea how to direct human beings and it showed. 

In first movie he just sits down the entire time through 2 BORING dialogue scenes. 

Movies aren't video games were characters are "cool because they teh power ddoooood". This is not how story telling works, that's not what makes normal human beings relate to a character. 

Lucas was never going to accept a movie made by the marketing division.

Can you tell me what caused the delay in the movie? I fail to see it. There is very little original work in this movie, very little. There are no cutting edge effects or expansive technology.

Maybe the movie was delayed to make room for a bigger marketing campaign?

Everything new in this movie is bad, everything old is good. That doesn't ring a bell for you? This movie was a remake with bad new characters.

The problem , like I said before, is that you care for uninteresting character like Fynn because you can relate to them. Mace Windu became popular with the star wars fanbase and you fail to understand why.

His characters, one of the most powerful jedi master, able to defeat the emperor in a lightsaber duel, meant a lot for people caring about the SW universe. Your garbage emo characters like Kylo Ren adn Fynn doesn't.

When your main characters are a weak and emo teeanagers in tears as the villain and an useless average dude as the co-hero, you know you have a problem.

I'm betting they delayed it because Lucas had a bunch of Jar-Jar, Lets Put Aliens in Indiana Jones type shit ideas in his treatment and they didn't want to go that way. Why else would they throw away a perfectly good scriptment and delay the movie for months? Maybe George "Genius" Lucas had a bunch of shit ideas in there and someone finally had the authority to say "you know what George ... this idea is just bad, we're not going to use it" for the first time in 18 years?

Kathleen Kennedy is not an idiot. 

There is very little original work in TFA because Lucas FUCKED up the franchise with the prequels and caused a rift in the fan base which is bad for business. So TFA *unfairly* always had the burden of having to undo the damage done by the prequels and reset the franchise. VIII and IX now can move forward without being burdened by that baggage. 

Anyone who thinks the prequels had good characters (or any characters really period) has no legs to stand on in criticizing VII. Poe Damoreon shows more character in his first five minutes than most of Lucas' prequel characters did in 3 movies worth. 

Any time you want to defend Lucas just let this sink in ... he genuinely in his mind thought Jar-Jar would be a character that would get *huge* laughs from a modern movie audience. Think about that. Wrap your brain around that. Take a swig of that poop cola and let it wash around in your mouth. Think about it. 

The lightsaber fights in the prequels are likely only decent even because George had minimal invovlement in them, they were choreographed by a guy who was pretty good and given freedom to try some things, in the script they're written fairly simply. But lightsaber fights are the only things in the prequels that work in any way. Watch the prequels without the lightsaber fights. I dare you. I double dare you. 

Since we don't know what Lucas had done, you are making up things. You know that Lucas's way of doing Star Wars was much bigger than what they have done? In scale, in special effects, technology, it was a much bigger work. I can only think that if Lucas had done it, it wouldn't have been released yet.

Your explanation for the lack of original work doesn't convince me at all. Why don't you accept the fact that they went for the easy road? They took the elements that everybody loved, to the point of almost being a remake, and to add some new things to introduce new characters.

They just choose the easy road: a middle sized budget with nothing outstanding and rehashing the things the fans loved the most. But they failed with the new characters parts.

Lucas is the one who created Vador, Luke, Han Solo and the whole Star Wars universe. I give him way more credits than your Kathleen something.

In the prequels there were some interesting charachters: Qui Gon and Darth Maul were good, a shame they did not last longer, especially as Dooku was too much of a ghost after. I thought that Palpatine was absolutely perfect and flawless in the prequels.

The prequels had great lightsaber fight (I understand you don't want to speak about the embarassing Kylo Ren/Rey duel) that were epic moment, Maul/Obiwan, Obiwan/Anakin, Yoda/Emperor..... There were also large scale battles and the world making (corsucents, unser sea Naboo).

The main letdown was the plots which got unnecessary complicated, confused or running too many at the same time. But the last one was flawless.

at least its better than the prequels!

Hey my friend. I will support you with this little post of mine.

I will agree with you that the prequels were amazing in some parts and were lacking in others. It's just fair. Lucas wanted to show us something new, some more of the world he created, maybe he was lost in it a little bit but one thing never changes in Lucas films, and that is how the force was meant to be and how you could feel it almost inside you when you were watching the movies. The force was something respectful, something that needed focus, sacrifice and training. The world was deep in it's way and I couldn't believe how shallow it became in the force kwakens.

But I will give you advice: don't waste your energy to explain something if you see that someone want's to see only his own way. It's simple. Spend your time for something more creative. 

About the force crackens: I wish it was deeper and has more STAR WARS feel into it. It doesn't. It's just simple action movie and that's it. If someone doesn't understand it, thatn I'm ok with that. Why should we argue about some minor things like how the characters were showed or how the fight were shown. I would like to look at the big picture: was it a real STAR WARS movie for me? - no! Why? Because I didn't feel the greatness of the STAR WARS. I couldn't feel respect, I felt pity and I felt real sad that my beloved franchise is now part of the money making machine. But lets hoppe it will be better in the future. For now I have my own STAR WARS which I know so well. I don't invite any strangers and half-embryo-mimic creatures to my bastion.

Cheers!

I'm not making anything up. 

We know factually George has had some terrible ideas the last 15+ years that have generated tremendous backlash from fans beginning with the Special Editions, aliens in Indiana Jones, the Jar Jar debacle, etc. I'm not "making that up".

We know for a fact Disney delayed this film and were willing to move it into the winter to take a different approach from the one that Lucas had. This caused the film to be delayed several months. We know they opted not to use George's treatment, and from the sounds of it he's a little bitter about it. 

Lightsaber fights don't make a movie. That's not storytelling. That's WWE Wrestling (and that might be an insult to WWE Wrestling because those actually do have story lines, many of which were more dramatic/believable than what the prequels had). 

Here's the bottom line with the prequels, lets break them down DRAMATICALLY. No special effects bull shit or light stick waving to bail them. Dramatically they fail in each episode. 

Episode I: Main dramatic beats is Jar-Jar (George's own words -- Jar-Jar is the key to all this) and little Anakin Skywalker - Failure. Both of these points are an abject failure. Jar-Jar was terrible and a complete failure as a comic character, Jake Llyod was terrible. 

Episode II: The love story between Anakin and Padme. Failure. The Transformers movies with Shia Lebeouf and Megan Fox work better romantically than this. Lets be honest this was written by a guy who hadn't been involved in a romantic relationship for 15+ years since his wife cheated on him and it was painfully obvious. 

Episode III: Anakin's fall, but this only works if we really believe Anakin/Obi-Wan's friendship, that's where the tragic element of it stems from. Failure in this regard. And no "watch the Clone Wars" isn't a valid answer here, I shouldn't have to watch a seperate TV show to get what I should have from the movies. 

The 4 main *dramatic* elements of the prequels that we're asked to invest emotionally in ... Liking Anakin as a kid, Jar-Jar Binks as a revolutionary CG comic character, Anakin and Padme's epic love story, and Anakin and Obi-Wan's friendship/subsequent "break-up" ... are *all* busts. That means "Anakin's fall" doesn't work nearly as well as it shoud have because Lucas failed to lay the groundwork for it. 

I get what you're trying to say "yeah dude, but Darth Maul has TWO lightsabers! Super Awesome!". I don't care if they gave Anakin a lightsaber coming from his crotch and one coming out of his ass (take that Darth Maul!) and had him to do a 50 minute super duper epic mega battle with Count Super Lightsaberous and his henchman Darth Icky ... these movie's fail on every major dramatic point they attempt. 

TFA is a $200 million dollar movie if that's "mid-buget" lol, I don't know what you're watching, but honestly I don't care about any of that shit. Every movie has CGI out the wazoo. 

That last Wachowski movie, Jupiter Ascending, with Channing Tatum as a space dog has better special effects than any Star Wars movie. So what? Who cares. It sucked too, looked amazing, but sucked. Anyone can have CGI in their movies nowadays, it's not 1991 anymore where seeing a liquid metal CGI effect was OMG AAMAAMAZING. Honestly to me CGI is just an expected element now, I don't care, really haven't since Toy Story in 1995 ... that showed an entire movie from CGI, so after that it's just like "oh so you have a CGI side kick ... whoopity doo, I already saw a movie that's 100% CGI". 

Lightsaber battles never made Star Wars great in the first place or kept them relevant for 20+ years. The fact that they're the main good thing defenders can bring up about the prequels just proves how bankrupt the prequels were from a storytelling perspective.