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Would you?

Yes, I'd eliminate or bl... 50 28.57%
 
Yes, I'd edit it to make... 9 5.14%
 
No, I'd leave it be. 71 40.57%
 
Depends on the case, depends on the context. 31 17.71%
 
Show me the answers / I d... 14 8.00%
 
Total:175

I think censorship is dumb and pointless for the most part.



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That's about the only thing I prefer being censored... Kids should not be sexualized even if it's just a video game.

Really, everyone knows deep down why we like erotic portrayals of people in games and art, so there's somethg inherently wrong in portraying minors in such a way as there's really only the one reason to do it.

I suppose there's something of a cultural divide here, though, in that girls in their early to mid teens have long been sexualized in Japanese art/anime etc... I still remember being surprised by the unedited original Dragonball series with how they treated the child version of Bulma. Of course, people often incorrectly conflate this with pedophilia when technically it's called "ephebophilia" (attraction to 15-19 year olds) which is not considered a mental illness, but they do often seem to go younger than 15 at times in their animes.

This is, of course, not exclusively a Japanese thing, historically speaking. The Greeks (and to a lesser extent the later romans) very much idolized the young male (~11-18) body as is quite evident in their art and sculpture, so it can certainly just be a cultural thing. That said, it still strikes me as wrong to portray these kids in that fashion, and it is especially egregious when they simply claim they're "15" or older but draw them with the appearance of a ten year old. That's one loophole that certainly needs closing.



ClassicGamingWizzz said:
archer9234 said:
LurkerJ said:

Why is having sex with a 15 year old perceived as horrible (and 16 isn't)? Isn't it just sex? Is sex harmful? Who are we trying to protect and from what?

Genuine questions.

I'd like to point out that I don't have any fantasies that involve "minors" but I like what I am reading here and I would appreciate the input of some of you. 

It's usually because morality is in play. My stance is: If the character is fictional. Being game, CGI, drawing, animation. And it involves lolicon. I'd accept it. To me it's just another thing someone wants to fap to. Let's be honest here. Anything in your room, as you read this. Someone will fap to it. No matter how dumb you think this statment is.

There is someone out there fapping to a keyboard. Lolicon is not real. It's a fantasy. Would you hate a person who is happly married for 50 years, has children. But has a room of lolicon? Did said person do ANYTHING social wrong? No. You can mark said person as weird/perverted. But not a pedophile. Since no real action of it, or abuse, has ever taken place. Because if you want to start covering this up. You have to contiune your stance to other areas. Take this photo.

 


But those photos are from a catalogue that have a purporse, show the stuff for the parents to buy cloths to children, its not made with the purporse of some sick fuck to fap to it but the character that is in the OP is made for what ?

I would love to know why the hell people likes shit like this or anime characters underaged in sexy poses and almost with no clothing like we saw a ton in this site in signs etc.

So i say good work nintendo.





I am 100% against the sexualization of children, fictuonal or real, in any way whatsoever. If you're not, I question your ethics.



TheLastStarFighter said:
I am 100% against the sexualization of children, fictuonal or real, in any way whatsoever. If you're not, I question your ethics.

Can you speak the same with your neigborhood or family and friend when there children wearing a swimsuit?



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SpokenTruth said:

The sexualization of a 13 year old girl in a video game in the US would lead to lawsuits.

Now if all you people blasting Nintendo for this and thinking about canceling a pre-order (you likely never had to begin with) are willing to pay their lawsuits for them....then fight on. If not, deal with it and enjoy a grand RPG in 6 weeks.

Why everything need to be a consoles wars.



video games aren't real so no, I wouldn't.



On first impression I had no idea how to respond to this thread, or rather I really didn't feel like it. But after reading a bit of the thread that inspired this one I got to thinking.
How is something like age itself depicted?

Because I share the same sentiment as the one I posted there, cultural differences are weird...but they are different for a reason, because people are.

I'm not bragging or anything, but my university is pretty cosmopolitan, its top tier so we get people from around the world. So walking around campus I've often mistaken people ages by how they look. People I swear were children, might be my age are older, and many underage freshman might look like Juniors.

Fundamentally, this is why it is legitimate for authors to say something like "oh, she looks like that but she is 18." because its entirely plausible.

In fact, worse still, even if you could fault someone on looks alone, the very fact that looks don't directly correlate with age, that is perceived age and actual age can be quite different, means that the distinction isn't reliable. Their is no way to argue against the former claim. I mean you could, and I guess its a measure of judgement, but at that point its really just preferential.

Thusly, I wouldn't censor it. It's not my responsibility.



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archer9234 said:
rolltide101x said:
pokoko said:
First, these are drawings, not actual people. There is no victim and any "age" is assigned, not inherent.

A drawing of a girl with small breasts and minimal curves can be "12" or she can be "18" depending on a whim. The inverse is also true. What we're talking about is pure fiction.

Now, that being said, there are always people looking to attack over any perceived impropriety. Because of that, I don't blame Nintendo. They have to protect themselves first and foremost.

The best way around this, usually, is to simply change the age. That doesn't always work, of course, and depends on the story itself, which should take priority. If you need the girl to be 13 in the story then she should stay 13. If not, change her age and leave the mature content in. I can't speak for this game, however, as I know nothing about it.

For all you know a pedo could use it as inspiration to act it out. I am willing to bet it has happened. They should not under ANY circumstances be placed in the sexual context

For all as you know Rambo was the reason someone grabbed a gun, and killed people. Let's ban those! It was Silvester Stalone's fault, no wait, the writers. They are the horrible murderers! Next up, you'll be saying GTA V was the reason shootings happen....oh, wait. That already freaking happens in the news. What do all those asses say what should get banned?

Respond to this picture. If you don't know what's going on, in this episode of the simpsons. You'd think this episode is teaching pedophila. It comes down to context. This is all fictional. And aimed at a certain age group. Should this episode of the simpsons be banned. Because a child could accidently see it and think sex with a child?

This is a bad example. A very bad example. 

For starters, that looks either a midget or an doll. As a matter of fact, in this scene, she's a midget pretending to be a doll. No one is is going to be cross-eyed and in such a stiff position under any normal circumstance, and even in bizzare circumstances.

Also Moe Sizlack can be a lot of things. But people know he's not a pedophile.

"It comes down to context"... You're literally taking this picture out of context. 

No because a child is not going to see an episode, where Moe Sizlack is panicking becuase he thinks his date is replaced with a doll, only for a second later the date to say she was pretending to be a doll, startle Moe, and still be panicked, and then pan to commericial. That's due to the fact that, in context, That's whats's going to happen in the span of about 5-15 seconds. The child will not just see one still frame of an animated episode with sound somehow not on and think that, and somehow, just somehow the child magically did, anyone reviewing the episode to verify whether it was the case or not... would not. Mainly due to the fact that in context, which  again, you have taken this out of, no one would see a problem with Moe dating a midget. Except Moe, and that is within the context of her being a midget.



rolltide101x said:
Torillian said:

Wouldn't that apply to any depicted illustration of a crime?  Why are we watching movies like Robocop when for all you know some psycho could use it as inspiration and act it out?  Scary movies would definitely be out, it's like a how-to handbook on how to murder young adults.  

I agree with you on the rest of those. But under aged people just should not be placed in a sexual context. 

Drawings aren't people. I fully support sexualized drawings of minors, especially if it is a release for ephebophiles, hebephiles, pedophiles, etc.