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WolfpackN64 said:
Refusing someone service on religious or cultural grounds is not human rights. It's denying other people service.

well, you could argue that there IS a human right to do so, BUT modern societys decide on not denying services to anyone because that would make everything way to complicated and dysfunctional. 

the pope is just to stupid to understand how the world would look if everyone would be as bad people as those "christians".

you need a new liver? well bad luck catholic, the bieliver controll the organ market in this area...

 

 



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What is moral, do people always argue with their own rule, law and their own artificial moral. Can people create moral, law and rule based on need and desire. Then who deserved and responsible to create moral if human it self creating a rule that will only benefit people who creating the rule and law.



Those choir boys must be messing with his head.



Maybe that's what you think, Mr. Francis, but we're all entitled to being wrong. For me? I'd expect it's a human right that children shouldn't be preyed upon by people in positions of trust, such as Priest. And that should such a thing occur, responsible adults would ensure that such individuals would be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Of course, my thoughts on that are also incorrect, given the Holy See's refusal to open up their archives on the subject. Not to mention that they continue to have a high ranking members of the Church, in positions of power, who believe that 7 year old boys are culpable for their rape (Bishop of the Archdiocese in Syracuse, NY).



spurgeonryan said:
XanderXT said:
Inb4 Stupid Christians!


What is stupid about me?


Didn't you make a whole thread about people calling you stupid (among other things) just the other day? lol



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As a moralist, I agree with the pope, but as a Christian I disagree with the his support of Kim Davis. Because she had a right to object, but not to prevent others from their beliefs.
Specifically, her prevention of others filling out the marraige license for her personal beliefs. That is essentially tyranny in a nutshell.



In this day and age, with the Internet, ignorance is a choice! And they're still choosing Ignorance! - Dr. Filthy Frank

Ka-pi96 said:

Did this guy not get the message about religion and Government being separate or something?

They have the right to think whatever the fuck they want. But regardless of what they think they had better do the job that they are being paid to do or they can fuck right off.

he knows that, but he ignores it because it means that he has less power than he wants.



Of course they do, but then they need to step down and let someone else do the job they are uncapable of.



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’

Everybody should be able to get married if they want to, and nobody should give a f#ck whether it's a gay or a straight marriage.

Now, everybody should also have the right to disagree with it, even feel disgusted about it, and there is your human right. But the reason you disagree with something doesn't give you the right to forbid other people to do what you don't like.

And when someone uses the Bible to hate other people is, sorry, but just stupid. I respect christians but, come on, those are your beliefs, not everybody elses. Also, why do christians always use the Bible when they don't like something as if that was reason enough to hate others or forbid something because God said so, but what about all the things christians do but God forbids in the bible? What about divorce? Abortion? Raping? Pre-marriage sex? Lying? Murder? God lets christians do those things now or what? That's so hypocritical!

It's about time everybody starts living their own lives not giving a fuck whether the rest of the world lives as we do or not. Let other people have their own beliefs.

And just to finish, why do christians always talk shit about gay marriage but they shut up when a priest or someone from the church rapes a child? Where are you then? How many articles are written about that? Or why do they shut up when there are arranged marriages between men and small girls? Does the girl want to get married? Isn't she forced to get married? Or what about polygamy?

If a man wants to get married with his male partner, they are both adults and it's consensual, who cares if they get married? I really don't care if two men or two women get married, they are not hurting me nor my family, they are not killing anyone. They are just getting married, good for them.



Kennel83 said:
Everybody should be able to get married if they want to, and nobody should give a f#ck whether it's a gay or a straight marriage.

Now, everybody should also have the right to disagree with it, even feel disgusted about it, and there is your human right. But the reason you disagree with something doesn't give you the right to forbid other people to do what you don't like.

And when someone uses the Bible to hate other people is, sorry, but just stupid. I respect christians but, come on, those are your beliefs, not everybody elses. Also, why do christians always use the Bible when they don't like something as if that was reason enough to hate others or forbid something because God said so, but what about all the things christians do but God forbids in the bible? What about divorce? Abortion? Raping? Pre-marriage sex? Lying? Murder? God lets christians do those things now or what? That's so hypocritical!

It's about time everybody starts living their own lives not giving a fuck whether the rest of the world lives as we do or not. Let other people have their own beliefs.

And just to finish, why do christians always talk shit about gay marriage but they shut up when a priest or someone from the church rapes a child? Where are you then? How many articles are written about that? Or why do they shut up when there are arranged marriages between men and small girls? Does the girl want to get married? Isn't she forced to get married? Or what about polygamy?

If a man wants to get married with his male partner, they are both adults and it's consensual, who cares if they get married? I really don't care if two men or two women get married, they are not hurting me nor my family, they are not killing anyone. They are just getting married, good for them.

there is not one word about evil gays in the core bible. the only clear part is in the old testament, and well the old testament is maybe the most inhumane book in printing ever. even mein kampf doesnt have passages about enslaving your own children or killing people because they wear cloth of 2 different materials.