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binary solo said:
GTstation said:

Europe has enough of its own people that need help, fuck others from elsewhere.  They have no right for European help.

How about rather then another 10 billion dollar useless skyscraper, other RICH as FUCK muslims help these muslims.  

Probably because the people wanting to escape places like Syria don't want to flee to just another ultraconservative muslim country. There are also a lot of non-muslim people fleeing. It's a rather ignorant view assuming all these people are muslim. I certainly think money can be put up by Saudi Arabia and UAE to help cover the costs. But I don't think Saudi Arabia, in particular, is a good place to send refugees, especially not non-Muslims and certainly not women.


Except that the Muslim refugees do want the western countries to become Muslim countries. As I said before, Islamic councils have demanded Sharia law in Australia before.



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Lawlight said:
binary solo said:

Probably because the people wanting to escape places like Syria don't want to flee to just another ultraconservative muslim country. There are also a lot of non-muslim people fleeing. It's a rather ignorant view assuming all these people are muslim. I certainly think money can be put up by Saudi Arabia and UAE to help cover the costs. But I don't think Saudi Arabia, in particular, is a good place to send refugees, especially not non-Muslims and certainly not women.


Except that the Muslim refugees do want the western countries to become Muslim countries. As I said before, Islamic councils have demanded Sharia law in Australia before.


Not just in Australia here in Britain too also America hell any western country they want to change.  I am sick of reading/hearing liberal tree hugging hippes saying we should let them in. This my friends is because of the mainstream media such as the BBC who never show anything bad these Muslim economic migrants sorry refugges are doing. Look at Greece the BBC Sky Etc will only show their so calld plight what they do not show is these people destroying shops rioting and refusing food water etc because it comes fromn the red cross yes you guessed it because it has a cross on. Also it is a wide known tactic to throw their kids over board to get attention look it up. Muslims want to take over everything they destroy their own shit holes and now want to destroy ours. If any of you so called know it alls on here want to argue with me about this bring it on as I am not brainwashed or educated by the mainstream media.

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A number of people are all assuming these are all Muslim refugees. A good many are actually from the Christian and other-faith minority. There's hardly anywhere in the middle east where it's truly safe and prosperous to resettle if you're not Muslim.



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Send them to KSA/UAE/Qatar. They have the money and the lands to take care of the mess they helped create.



xl-klaudkil said:
Mark my words,there will be a huge muslims vs eu war in europe.

To many muslims that wants muslim laws.

These are SYRIANS, this oversimplification of complicated issues into frankly insulting black and whites is evidence of porr capability of discussing sensitive political issue on this site. I would argue its neither the time nor the place. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

The majority of muslims syrians don't want a muslim state. In fact, the refugee crisis is a result of fleeing Islamic State.

That's radical islam the basis of terror groups such as Al Queda and Islamic State of Iran and Syria (ISIL). Which is part of the reason Syria is destabilized in the first place.

Another more significant part is the US trying to force regime change against the Assad Rule (Syria's current regime) even going so far as to arm rebels some of which are ironically and alledgedly ISIL, instead of letting it happen "more naturally" like Arab Spring. You'd figure after Iraq, Iran, and Libya they'd learn by now, but Drone strikes make it alot easier to wage war.



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Lawlight said:
binary solo said:

Probably because the people wanting to escape places like Syria don't want to flee to just another ultraconservative muslim country. There are also a lot of non-muslim people fleeing. It's a rather ignorant view assuming all these people are muslim. I certainly think money can be put up by Saudi Arabia and UAE to help cover the costs. But I don't think Saudi Arabia, in particular, is a good place to send refugees, especially not non-Muslims and certainly not women.


Except that the Muslim refugees do want the western countries to become Muslim countries. As I said before, Islamic councils have demanded Sharia law in Australia before.

Islamic councils (In Australia) don't speak for all Muslims(Globally in the US) or even the US. How about we avoid generalizations and assumptions and look at the facts.



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What do you think about today's speech by Martin Schultz, the President of the European Parliament from Germany, who said that countries that don't want to accept the distribution mechanism will be made to do it BY FORCE? Are the Germans already back to their "good old" ways?

 

 

Personally, I am 100% against Poland accepting a single immigrant. 0 persons. The Western politicians are a bunch of irresponsible idiots. Merkel opening the borders and saying that Germany will accept the immigrants opens the floodgate and there will only be more coming this and the following years. Millions will come for the free money that these Western morrons throw at them. I don't want my country to participate in this madness. Help these people? Absolutely! But at the source, to solve the problem, not by taking in hundreds of thousands of muslims to my country alone, which doesn't solve anything.

Especially since these immigrants (cause they are NOT refugees, they are economical immigrants who came here from safe Turkish camps) don't want to come to Poland. We don't want them, they don't want to come to us. There should be no problem, but insteady Germany wants to force us to somehow imprison these people in our country against their will. Does Germany want yet again to build German Camps in Poland? I kinda think what they are doing is against human rights, it is absolutely against the existing EU law and looks very much like human trafficking to me.

 

Unfortunately our current government is a massive German wh*re and does absolutely everything Germany tells it to do. Fortunately we are having elections in 1.5 month and a party that wants to form a union with other countries from the region against this absurd policy has a very healthy lead (approx. 38% vs. 20%) on the ruling party. Hopefully they manage to rule on their own, cause if they don't get 50% of places in the Parliament, the current party may remain at power in some crazy coalition and it would be a disaster.



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Scisca said:

What do you think about today's speech by Martin Schultz, the President of the European Parliament from Germany, who said that countries that don't want to accept the distribution mechanism will be made to do it BY FORCE? Are the Germans already back to their "good old" ways?

 

 

Personally, I am 100% against Poland accepting a single immigrant. 0 persons. The Western politicians are a bunch of irresponsible idiots. Merkel opening the borders and saying that Germany will accept the immigrants opens the floodgate and there will only be more coming this and the following years. Millions will come for the free money that these Western morrons throw at them. I don't want my country to participate in this madness. Help these people? Absolutely! But at the source, to solve the problem, not by taking in hundreds of thousands of muslims Syrians to my country alone, which doesn't solve anything.

Especially since these immigrants (cause they are NOT refugees, they are economical immigrants who came here from safe Turkish camps) don't want to come to Poland. We don't want them, they don't want to come to us. There should be no problem, but insteady Germany wants to force us to somehow imprison these people in our country against their will. Does Germany want yet again to build German Camps in Poland? I kinda think what they are doing is against human rights, it is absolutely against the existing EU law and looks very much like human trafficking to me.

 

Unfortunately our current government is a massive German whm*re and does absolutely everything Germany tells it to do. Fortunately we are having elections in 1.5 month and a party that wants to form a union with other countries from the region against this absurd policy has a very healthy lead (approx. 38% vs. 20%) on the ruling party. Hopefully they manage to rule on their own, cause if they don't get 50% of places in the Parliament, the current party may remain at power in some crazy coalition and it would be a disaster.

Specifically Syrian Refugees, Syria is not an islamic state, in fact the refugee crisis is a result of ISIS/ISIL trying to take over Syria and US's fight against Assad.



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Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

Specifically Syrian Refugees, Syria is not an islamic state, in fact the refugee crisis is a result of ISIS/ISIL trying to take over Syria and US's fight against Assad.


85% of Syrians are muslims, aren't they? And you are wrong in saying that it's immigrants from Syria, cause the first cargo that is said to come to Poland is already said to consist mainly of citizens of Eritrea. It's not just Syria, everyone wants to get on the German moneytrain!



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It's okay, we can take it. We have dem moneyz. I personally don't see people as refugees or germans. I see them as humans and I don't really care where they come from or why they come or how long they want to stay. After all, if I wanted to go to the USA or something, I also want to be treated nicely. So I am nice to other people. Because I simply treat other people the way I want to be treated. It's a pretty simple way of life.

Yeah, the culture might take a hit, blahblah. But that happens all the time in history. Culture is a living thing and in fact it becomes richer and richer with more influences. You can't conservate culture. You can try, but your culture will die because nobody cares for it.

I don't know, I just don't see a reason to panic right now. We already had a refugee crisis in the 90s and it worked out ok. I mean, if we (the west) decide to bomb the shit out of the middle east and take every resource including water from africa, we should expect things like this. Such a pity that those people who we are exploiting since decades won't just shut up and starve to death, right? Come on.



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