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Mr Puggsly said:
bananaking21 said:

what does sony have to do with this? why are you so hell bent on bringing them into this discussion? and how am i over reacting by simply saying the video is horrible? 

im "using my head" just fine. another subscribtion for games on PS4 isnt needed. 

Why am I bringing Sony into this discusion? I guess you don't understand the video.

For $30 a year, its a cheap subscription. That's cheaper than 2 months of PS Now's subscription. Again, I'm a fan of letting consumers decide. Not letting Sony decide what's a good value. They are the same people that think a God of War III Remaster untouched for $40 is a good value.

Lol, the good old EA Access to PS Now subscription comparison, when will you people stop comparing these two? What will it take for you to see that those two services are entirely different and that they are not in competition with each other? Also I'd love for all the people proclaiming that the only reason EA Access isn't on PS is Sony to explain why the service isn't on PC either.

Also I will remember to give all the people praising EA Access to high heavens without any consideration for the first step it takes, my regards once we've arrived at the point of every publisher having its own subscription service with game content locked behind it to entice more people to get it.



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DerNebel said:
Mr Puggsly

Why am I bringing Sony into this discusion? I guess you don't understand the video.

For $30 a year, its a cheap subscription. That's cheaper than 2 months of PS Now's subscription. Again, I'm a fan of letting consumers decide. Not letting Sony decide what's a good value. They are the same people that think a God of War III Remaster untouched for $40 is a good value.

Lol, the good old EA Access to PS Now subscription comparison, when will you people stop comparing these two? What will it take for you to see that those two services are entirely different and that they are not in competition with each other? Also I'd love for all the people proclaiming that the only reason EA Access isn't on PS is Sony to explain why the service isn't on PC either.

Also I will remember to give all the people praising EA Access to high heavens without any consideration for the first step it takes, my regards once we've arrived at the point of every publisher having its own subscription service with game content locked behind it to entice more people to get it.

At their core EA Access and PS Now are a similar service. I see the appeal of both but PS Now is very expensive annually. Unless you really wanna use PS Now on a mobile device, then used PS3 games are the better deal.

I don't know why EA Access isn't on PC. But I know EA wanted it on both consoles but Sony is only interested in pushing its services. EA claims the service has been a success on Xbox, so it could be even more successful on PS4. Hence, I support letting consumers decide if its worth having.

Every publisher can't make a subscription service like EA Access unless they put out a lot of content. Games already have content locked out via DLC.

At one time people were afraid Sony was gonna charge for online play because MS had great success with Gold services. But now people are happy to pay for PS Plus for free games. Hence, more subscription services are fine if its a good deal. EA made its own subscription service and its a good deal.



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bananaking21 said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Why am I bringing Sony into this discusion? I guess you don't understand the video.

For $30 a year, its a cheap subscription. That's cheaper than 2 months of PS Now's subscription. Again, I'm a fan of letting consumers decide. Not letting Sony decide what's a good value. They are the same people that think a God of War III Remaster untouched for $40 is a good value.

do you? the video is about playing starwars first on XB1 via EA access and nelson took a cheap shot at sony by saying he wants to destroy them or what ever. you brought up Sony by affiliating my personal feelings towards them and how Sony has did ads before, which has nothing to do with the topic at hand. you are trying to start a fanboy debate with me about "Sony vs MS" and thats pretty clear.

 

and there you go again with subjects that have nothing to do with my original post. what does GoW3 remaster have to do with this video and thread? my original comment and point stand, the video was horrible and cringe worthy. 

Again, youre just really bothered by this video. Youre taking it too personal.

I mentioning things I find more cringe worthy than this video. ;-P



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Just imagine it's a Kevin Butler video. See? Doesn't that feel better?



DerNebel said:
The thing that weirds me out the most about this is why thiey are posting this now. I mean I get that they shot they video during Gamescom but Battlefront isn't coming for another 4 months, why not wait with this video until a more appropriate time?

And now we know



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Mr Puggsly said:
DerNebel said:
Mr Puggsly

Why am I bringing Sony into this discusion? I guess you don't understand the video.

For $30 a year, its a cheap subscription. That's cheaper than 2 months of PS Now's subscription. Again, I'm a fan of letting consumers decide. Not letting Sony decide what's a good value. They are the same people that think a God of War III Remaster untouched for $40 is a good value.

Lol, the good old EA Access to PS Now subscription comparison, when will you people stop comparing these two? What will it take for you to see that those two services are entirely different and that they are not in competition with each other? Also I'd love for all the people proclaiming that the only reason EA Access isn't on PS is Sony to explain why the service isn't on PC either.

Also I will remember to give all the people praising EA Access to high heavens without any consideration for the first step it takes, my regards once we've arrived at the point of every publisher having its own subscription service with game content locked behind it to entice more people to get it.

At their core EA Access and PS Now are a similar service. I see the appeal of both but PS Now is very expensive annually. Unless you really wanna use PS Now on a mobile device, then used PS3 games are the better deal.

I don't know why EA Access isn't on PC. But I know EA wanted it on both consoles but Sony is only interested in pushing its services. EA claims the service has been a success on Xbox, so it could be even more successful on PS4. Hence, I support letting consumers decide if its worth having.

Every publisher can't make a subscription service like EA Access unless they put out a lot of content. Games already have content locked out via DLC.

 

At one time people were afraid Sony was gonna charge for online play because MS had great success with Gold services. But now people are happy to pay for PS Plus for free games. Hence, more subscription services are fine if its a good deal. EA made its own subscription service and its a good deal.

Bolded: They are not...like at all. EA Access is infinitely closer to PS+ and Xbox Live Gold than it is to PS Now.

Just don't get a subscription to PS Now then. That's why the service was initially not even offered with one, because the point of PSNow isn't for hardcore gamers to be able to constantly replay their old PS3 games, it is for people without a PS3 to be able to once in a while pick up a PS3 game to play without all the hassle of owning the system, which is why the service won't even get to its full potential for Sony until it is on way more devices with a screen.

And it could also be a bigger success if the service was on PC, but it isn't which makes me very much doubt that we know the whole picture here.

There are more than enough publishers out there that could make a similar subscription service and if a publisher isn't big enough for this on its own he could always start a strategic alliance with other publishers for a service like this, also is the fact that games already have locked content via DLC supposed to make me happy? That isn't going to stop publishers from locking other content behind these services, we already have stupid shit like retailer exclusive pre order DLC, what's going to stop them from doing this?

Again, is the fact that people are now happy to pay for PS+ because of the free games(which btw is a pretty grand assumption here, cause we know that most people have PS+ because, surprise, surprise, a gameplay feature is locked behind it) supposed to make me happy? I don't have PS+, I'm still annoyed by the fact that I'll have to get it sooner or later because I want to play UC4 multiplayer. So actually PS+ is a perfect example to support my point of view here, first it was a service that upon subscription gave you free games, discounts, demos and some other small stuff (sound familiar?) and that was it, but then Sony realized that people are way more interested in buying into PS+ when they lock an important feature like multiplayer behind it and they sure were proven right. And while I'll easily admit that a lot of people just went with it, that still doesn't mean that everyone did, I certainly didn't and I certainly won't if publishers try to pull the same shit.

If I felt like I didn't have to worry about my scenario happening then I wouldn't, but looking at all the ways publishers have tried to get money out of customers in the last few years I simply don't feel that way, so I'll choose to stay sceptical.



d21lewis said:
Zappykins said:
It's good cheesy fun. And yes, we know their real competitor is Ouya. That's the only one they are really worried about.

They could buy the other with cash and hardly blink an eye, but Ouya is a true challenge and innovator.


Ouya is discontinued. M$ killed them!


Victory for Microsoft, Victory for Xbox and Victory for The Force!

The entire Galaxy Celebrates! 



 

Really not sure I see any point of Consol over PC's since Kinect, Wii and other alternative ways to play have been abandoned. 

Top 50 'most fun' game list coming soon!

 

Tell me a funny joke!

bananaking21 said:


it was so bad that at first i thought this was fan made and wasnt an official Xbox Video at first. 

so sony should put EA access on PS4 so people can play battlefront or what ever EA game a few days early for a few hours? yeah i dont think so. 

But Sony Gamers don't want EA Access.  Didn't you hear?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2014/07/30/sony-turned-down-ea-access-for-playstation/

But PlayStation Now, well, that's totally different.



 

Really not sure I see any point of Consol over PC's since Kinect, Wii and other alternative ways to play have been abandoned. 

Top 50 'most fun' game list coming soon!

 

Tell me a funny joke!

Zappykins said:
bananaking21 said:
 


it was so bad that at first i thought this was fan made and wasnt an official Xbox Video at first. 

so sony should put EA access on PS4 so people can play battlefront or what ever EA game a few days early for a few hours? yeah i dont think so. 

But Sony Gamers don't want EA Access.  Didn't you hear?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2014/07/30/sony-turned-down-ea-access-for-playstation/

But PlayStation Now, well, that's totally different.

Jesus Christ..not another one..



Isn't Microsoft aware that these types of silly moves don't work?

Remember the Destiny Perfume campaign that every Xbox fan celebrated their cleverness?

Well, the sales were clear enough 4.97 vs 2.8

The Ps4 version of this game is going to DESTROY the X1 version sales wise.