Dusk said:
Miyamotoo said:
Wii U arrived on market with $300/350 price while PS3/Xbox360 price was around $200 and they had similar graphic, in fact multiplatform game worked and play better on PS3/Xbox360 than on Wii U and in that time they got some of the best looking exclusive in whole generation. Gamepad was only difference, but expect off tv play nobody saw what is so special about gamepad, it didn't have nearly same apeling like Wii Remote. Not only Wii U were around $100 more expensive but games looked and performed worse than PS3/Xbox 360.
Miyamoto recently said that Wii U had higher price than they wanted and he said that is one of reasons why Wii U failed. Also, Wii U is first Nintendo hardware on that they were losing money on launch (it was profitable with one sold game).
Also he said this:
"What we are always striving to do is to find a way to take novel technology that we can take and offer it to people at a price that everybody can afford. And in addition to that, rather than going after the high-end tech spec race and trying to create the most powerful console, really what we want to do is try to find a console that has the best balance of features with the best interface that anyone can use.
But really what's most important to us is, how do we create a system that is both unique and affordable so that everyone can afford it and everyone can enjoy it."
At end of next year PS4/XboxOne will probably have price around $300 (XboxOne now is $350 and holiday promotions go near $300) and NX will probably be weaker than PS4/XboxOne.
If you look all that facts, they clearly want again something like Wii not Wii U, like i wrote: again affordable console (around $249) with good gimmick (Wii motion controls were very strong, while gamepad completely failed) maybe that hybrid device or something similar.
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First off, the Wii U has nothing to do with the PS3 or the Xbox 360. Each console is taken at its own merits as for price so your comparison is complete BS.
It's about the PRICE POINT and inflation, not comparison or else you would be comparing the X1, PS4 to the PS3 and 360 as well as the Wii and Wii U since they are all on the market at the same time. The PS3 and 360 were far more than that when they released to the market, so were the X1 and PS4.
Yes, the Wii U had a higher price point than they wanted, not in comparison to anything, but just more than they wanted. Do you see the difference?
The NX will be what it will be. My guess is more powerful than both because of the issues they have run into with the Wii U, Nintendo is not a stupid company but they also aren't going to just go ball deep into the power battle either, plus it's also 2 years later than the release of the others and tech has jumped quite a bit since then. The ability to be more powerful and cheaper is very attainable for them if they choose that approach.
You talk about facts but don't actually give any. There are a couple quotes that relate directly to the Wii U. Affordability and novel technology can be a wide array of anything. It could be a hybrid system. It could be a new VR tech. It could be a new AR tech. It could be something we haven't seen yet. Now with the quote "rather than going after the high-end tech spec race and trying to create the most powerful console, really what we want to do is try to find a console that has the best balance of features with the best interface that anyone can use." can easily be the most powerful console since it isn't actually ruling it out. It could be throwing the competition off their track, like normal. Either way, power has little to do with affordability. If that were the case then hand held consoles wouldn't be a thing since they are far below in terms of power.
If we look at the facts, we really don't know what to expect from Nintendo. They do their own thing. We aren't going to know what we are going to get till it's released.
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My comparison is complete BS!?
Wii U arrived on market just year before new consoles from MS/Sony, and in comparison with they current consoles it performed and games (launch games) looked worst, that alone wouldnt be a such a problem, but problem is that Wii U was around $100/150 more expensive in that time. New console with games that performed and look worse than on current ones with $100/150 higher price!? WTF!? This are all facts, but maybe you cant see them..
Like I wrote, the Wii U had a higher price point than they wanted and it was their first console on which they were losing money, so clearly they had some problems because they couldn't have lower price point, and they will clearly correct that mistake with new hardware.
Nothing Nintendo mentioned dont indicates that NX will be stronger than PS4, on the contrary, all point that they are making new Wii. Wii U in comparison with Wii completely failed, it was not affordable and gimmick failed.
"What we are always striving to do is to find a way to take novel technology that we can take and offer it to people at a price that everybody can afford. And in addition to that, rather than going after the high-end tech spec race and trying to create the most powerful console, really what we want to do is try to find a console that has the best balance of features with the best interface that anyone can use."
We already know that Miyamoto think that Wii U had high price, also we all know Wii had very afordiable price in comparision with Xbox360/PS3, so statmant "at a price that everybody can afford" clearly indicates lower price in comparison with PS4/Xbox One, probably around $250.
In that statement "rather than going after the high-end tech spec race and trying to create the most powerful console" they clearly saying we are not going for most powerful console.
This are all facts, like I wrote, but maybe you dont see them..
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