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kitler53 on 29 July 2015

*looks at republican candidates*

obama would crush them. i've been very happy with obama but still,.. i'm very much in favor of term limits so it is for the best he is leaving. hilary will make a good president so it's all good.



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Jimbo1337 on 29 July 2015

Obama doesn't need another term because he has already reached the highest level of success by adding more to the national debt than the previous 43 presidents combined.



Robert_Downey_Jr. on 29 July 2015
kitler53 said:
*looks at republican candidates*

obama would crush them. i've been very happy with obama but still,.. i'm very much in favor of term limits so it is for the best he is leaving. hilary will make a good president so it's all good.

she'll be better than him that's for sure.  Not saying much though.  Still hopefully she can have a fraction of the success her husband did.  God knows we need a pre 2000s president back.



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Soundwave on 29 July 2015

He's not wrong. He'd crush this Republican field.



homer on 29 July 2015

If he ran against the current republicans, I would vote for him. Unless McCain emerges from the shadows. John McCain is an american treasure and he deserves the respect of every American imo. He should have beat W. in 2000, but I understand why he lost to Obama in 2008.



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generic-user-1 on 29 July 2015
Conegamer said:
Yeah, he probably would. But those rules are there for a reason, and they're damn good too. 12 years is just too much for one man to hold all the power.


those rules are not that old- FDR, one of the best presidents was in office for 12 years, and was voted in for 16, but died while in office.



Eddie_Raja on 29 July 2015
coolbeans said:
Eddie_Raja said:


Without a doubt he has set a new president that if you are POTUS, you can just decree things you want as long as you have the support.  The thing is he is only doing this because he knows congress will never get anything done themselves.

 

If we fix our congressional system then presidents will be less likely to go this route.

That continues a dangerous precendent the same people used to criticize W Bush over.  You shouldn't be allowed to expand your powers on a whim, like on something such as amnesty, and just brush it off with 'the legislative branch was in my way.'  

I 100% agree.  What I am saying is we need to fix congress first, if we want to fix many of the other problems in government we are having.  Fix the biggest problems first.



Prediction for console Lifetime sales:

Wii:100-120 million, PS3:80-110 million, 360:70-100 million

[Prediction Made 11/5/2009]

3DS: 65m, PSV: 22m, Wii U: 18-22m, PS4: 80-120m, X1: 35-55m

I gauruntee the PS5 comes out after only 5-6 years after the launch of the PS4.

[Prediction Made 6/18/2014]

Aeolus451 on 29 July 2015
Eddie_Raja said:
Aeolus451 said:

I never said anything about the amount of executive orders he's done but rather it's the executive orders themselves and when he's using them that are the problems.


Without a doubt he has set a new president that if you are POTUS, you can just decree things you want as long as you have the support.  The thing is he is only doing this because he knows congress will never get anything done themselves.

 

If we fix our congressional system then presidents will be less likely to go this route.

Any change done through executive orders like he's done will not result in meaningful and long lasting change since it can all just as easily be reversed by the next president. The reason why he didn't work with congress on things like immigration is because he would of had to comprimise on certain things in order to get it passed. That's the way it's supposed to work. Of course, extremely left-leaning bills won't go through congress when it's controlled by republicans but that's the party people wanted in control of congress. 

Obama wanted to push his party's agenda regardless of what anyone else thinks. He's a horrible president because he doesn't even follow the law or have any foresight.

The nuclear deal with iran will probably end with us going to war over there once Iran starts to do what it wants. Using planes only against ISIS is not a viable strategy to stop them. He adds fuel onto race issues. Al Sharpton is a advisor/friend of his that's an openly racist bigot that uses race issues to profit from.  His executive order on immigration is illegal and will probably cost millions to fix.  He broke the law trading 5 high ranking taliban for that traitor bergdahl.



Eddie_Raja on 29 July 2015
Aeolus451 said:
Eddie_Raja said:


Without a doubt he has set a new president that if you are POTUS, you can just decree things you want as long as you have the support.  The thing is he is only doing this because he knows congress will never get anything done themselves.

 

If we fix our congressional system then presidents will be less likely to go this route.

Any change done through executive orders like he's done will not result in meaningful and long lasting change since it can all just as easily be reversed by the next president. The reason why he didn't work with congress on things like immigration is because he would of had to comprimise on certain things in order to get it passed. That's the way it's supposed to work. Of course, extremely left-leaning bills won't go through congress when it's controlled by republicans but that's the party people wanted in control of congress. 

 

Congress flat out said they wouldn't work with him ever on anything (Because they were butthurt).  I mean then what would you do?  

If he broke laws, they should arrest/impeach.  Exept they can't, because he didn't technically, and they would never work together to get that done.



Prediction for console Lifetime sales:

Wii:100-120 million, PS3:80-110 million, 360:70-100 million

[Prediction Made 11/5/2009]

3DS: 65m, PSV: 22m, Wii U: 18-22m, PS4: 80-120m, X1: 35-55m

I gauruntee the PS5 comes out after only 5-6 years after the launch of the PS4.

[Prediction Made 6/18/2014]

Aeolus451 on 29 July 2015
Eddie_Raja said:
Aeolus451 said:

Any change done through executive orders like he's done will not result in meaningful and long lasting change since it can all just as easily be reversed by the next president. The reason why he didn't work with congress on things like immigration is because he would of had to comprimise on certain things in order to get it passed. That's the way it's supposed to work. Of course, extremely left-leaning bills won't go through congress when it's controlled by republicans but that's the party people wanted in control of congress. 

 

Congress flat out said they wouldn't work with him ever on anything (Because they were butthurt).  I mean then what would you do?  

If he broke laws, they should arrest/impeach.  Exept they can't, because he didn't technically, and they would never work together to get that done.

He did break laws but there's no punishment for any of it. His immigration order will probably get overturned because it's illegal but he'll probably just issue a new one. Congress won't work with him after he started to wrongly use executive orders.