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343 Industries only has 4 months (make that 3 months left) to polish the technical aspects ... 

The team practically needs a miracle at this point to obtain a more solid framerate AND get a minimum resolution of something comparable to 900p ...



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FIT_Gamer said:
daredevil.shark said:
Makes me wonder how come people expect 4k in next gen.

The only time i've ever heard any one mention 4k gaming on current gen its a few deluded Xbox players. Most of us know that isn't going to happen on either console. As far as the article goes, i don't think they'll have issues getting the MP to a solid 60fps, SP they might just end up dropping to 30fps if it's too much of a hassle. Also are they saying the E3 demo ran below 720p at certain points?

Wait, what? Wasn't the poster asking bow people can expect 4k resolution for NEXT Gen, not the current Gen?



Looks like it will be sub-900p... to be fair dynamically going sub-900p to over-900p.

They are having serious performance issues that make me wonder if it was possible splitscreen even in 30fps.

Edit - It was not me that said that... own devs confirmed the performance issues that compromissed splitscreen.



I would think sacrificing resolution for locked 60fps would be the way to go. Set the game at 60fps and then push for the best resolution possible at that setting. Surely that's the way most FPSs looking for an excellent MP experience should be doing it.



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I rather have an fps that runs at 60fps at lower resolution over 30fps but full HD. Some want better resolution while others prefer higher framerate I'm just glad 343 is focused on framerate rather than resolution.



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ethomaz said:
Looks like it will be sub-900p... to be fair dynamically going sub-900p to over-900p.

There are having serious performance issues that make me wonder if it was possible splitscreen even in 30fps.


Just said the sanior engine engineer with direct contact with the latest bild. 

Serious man. How do you know this stuff?

2 years have been passed and you aren´t tired of spreading BS.

Splitscreen was gutted because no ony uses it any more. It´s a thing 10 years in the past. Your beloved Destiny dosen´t have nor Battlefront and basicly no other big game in the last 5 year. Halo 4 was probaly the last one that even bother and also resulting in an hard performance penalty.

I don´t even know if 343i even spend much time trying to achieve slipt-screen this time. They should have chose not to early in the development. But who knows? (You, may be?)

You have no qualifications as a programmer or a software/hardware engineer. Please, have a little self respect and stop just reapeating others jon does FUDs, also without any qualification what so ever from Neogaf .

Duzens of jornalists played hands on Halo 5 Warzone at E3 and the campain at previous weeks at 343i HQ. The game is in a very decent state. There is nothing to hide.

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Dark_Feanor said:
ethomaz said:
Looks like it will be sub-900p... to be fair dynamically going sub-900p to over-900p.

There are having serious performance issues that make me wonder if it was possible splitscreen even in 30fps.


Just said the sanior engine engineer with direct contact with the latest bild. 

Serious man. How do you know this stuff?

2 years have been passed and you aren´t tired of spreading BS.

Splitscreen was gutted because no ony uses it any more. It´s a thing 10 years in the past. Your beloved Destiny dosen´t have nor Battlefront and basicly no other big game in the last 5 year. Halo 4 was probaly the last one that even bother and also resulting in an hard performance penalty.

I don´t even know if 343i even spend much time trying to achieve slipt-screen this time. They should have chose not to early in the development. But who knows? (You, may be?)

You have no qualifications as a programmer or a software/hardware engineer. Please, have a little self respect and stop just reapeating others jon does FUDs, also without any qualification what so ever from Neogaf .

Duzens of jornalists played hands on Halo 5 Warzone at E3 and the campain at previous weeks at 343i HQ. The game is in a very decent state. There is nothing to hide.

Nope this is his only job, You can't take that away, then he would have absolutely nothing to do at all, Really, nothing. However this has been his motto, just non-stop trashing xbox.

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Dark_Feanor said:

Just said the sanior engine engineer with direct contact with the latest bild.

Serious man. How do you know this stuff?

2 years have been passed and you aren´t tired of spreading BS.

Splitscreen was gutted because no ony uses it any more. It´s a thing 10 years in the past. Your beloved Destiny dosen´t have nor Battlefront and basicly no other big game in the last 5 year. Halo 4 was probaly the last one that even bother and also resulting in an hard performance penalty.

I don´t even know if 343i even spend much time trying to achieve slipt-screen this time. They should have chose not to early in the development. But who knows? (You, may be?)

You have no qualifications as a programmer or a software/hardware engineer. Please, have a little self respect and stop just reapeating others jon does FUDs, also without any qualification what so ever from Neogaf .

Duzens of jornalists played hands on Halo 5 Warzone at E3 and the campain at previous weeks at 343i HQ. The game is in a very decent state. There is nothing to hide.

The own devs confirmed the splitscreen was cut due performance issues lol.
The same devs that promised and confirmed a lot of times splitscreen in Halo 5.

And I have qualitification... not just that I works with that lol.
My TCC (monografia) was about gaming devepment: http://fatec.edu.br/html/fatecam/documentos/biblioteca/catalogo_tcc_informatica_15_10_2013.pdf (SANTOS, Edmárcio Thomaz. H. P - page 29)

Ouch... you can feel ashamed now but I do that with you all the time.

You never learn.

PS. I sent a message to mod team to confirmate that I have qualifications and works in the area just to you stop to spreead FUD/bullshit about others uses that you can't accept have more knowledge than you.

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FIT_Gamer said:
daredark said:
Makes me wonder how come people expect 4k in this generation

time i've ever heard any one mention 4k gaming on current gen its a few deluded Xbox players. that isn't going to happen on either console. As far as the article goes, i don't think they'll have issues getting the MP to a solid 60fps, SP they might just end up dropping to 30fps if it's too much of a hassle. Also are they saying the E3 demo ran below 720p at certain points?


Im a PC gamer here, and iv heard more PS fans talk up 4k and 1080p/60 frames then i have with Xbox fans. Not saying Xbox fans dont talk it up but to single out one support group only shows your fanboyism. Just remember ND showed you a teck demo of UC4 and claimed 1080/60 and after all the downgrades we get 30 frames. Atleast 343i are trying to achieve what they promised. As for fanboying. Your all the same, "my daddy can beat up your daddy arguments"

4k wont happen on niether console, its a $2k+ investment up from PS4/XB1. 

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