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In order to get the full Nintendo experience, u have always needed to own both their handheld and console, which based on price was pretty realistic in previous generations but much harder to expect now.

Back in 1998, Nintendo 64 cost $129.99 and Gameboy Color cost $69.99 for a total of about $200.

Back in 2003, Gamecube cost $99.99 and Gameboy Advance SP cost $99.99 for a total of about $200.

Currently, Wii U costs $299.99 and New 3DS XL costs $199.99 for a total of about $500. Even when adjusted for inflation it's still close to twice as much to own both Nintendo platforms now than it did in the 5th/6th gen.

This is a huge reason why Nintendo needs to go ahead and just unify their platforms. Still make two seperate pieces of hardware but make it so they have the same architecture, operation system, online infrastructure and share a library.

NX Portable-$199.99, between Xbox 360 & Wii U in terms of specs that can handle Wii U level visuals/ports on a single 5" screen at 540p.

NX Console-$199.99, between Wii U & Xbox One in terms of specs that plays the same games at 1080p with some extra graphical effects.

Now u only truly need one device to get the full Nintendo experience but their can still be some incentives to own both. Perhaps someone prefers playing games like Pokemon or Animal Crossing on the go and prefers playing games like Zelda or Xenoblade on their TV at home, these people may buy both. Also the handheld can have the same features of the Wii U gamepad when linked to the console, things like inventory/map or asymmetrical gameplay. Maybe some other minor extras for people who own both, kinda like how Amiibo adds things to games but u still feel like u get the full experience even without them. Just some ideas on how Nintendo can still try getting people to own both pieces of hardware despite sharing the same library.

So what personal reasons do u have for not wanting Nintendo to fully unify their platforms?



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Because that Console would fail. harddddddd.
FTR, I do want them to unify, but they need to make a console that's standard in terms of hardware this time around, which contradicts with the Fusion aspect of things because having the same architecture as the handheld, which is most likely gonna be ARM (The same as all Nintendo's previous handhelds and modern phones and tablets), would limit 3rd party developers yet again...

They could always surprise us by making an x86 handheld though, but that ain't happening.



MohammadBadir said:
Because that Console would fail. harddddddd.


Just like the last 3 out of 4 Nintendo consoles, which all failed to get more than 20% marketshare?

Also that's not a real reason for not wanting a completely unified ecosystem.



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Because I don't want the handheld experience on my $3500 TV... If they are giving both games for free, there is no way that they will put noticeably more effort into the console version because they will be losing money then... And if they don't put more effort into the console version, then there is no way it will run at 1080p native and that $200 hardware will limit that 1080p part too... It will be lucky to even run at 720p 60fps

On top of that, I don't want another wiiU level of graphics in their next gen console because I have the wiiU for that and at a $200 price point, there is no way that it will be noticeably better than the wiiU in terms of power nor will it be able to render games at 1080p specially considering that not even the x1/ps4 can do it with all their games.

I buy their console because I want their console experience, not because I want the same experience as their handheld, just slightly better... I want it to be leagues better and it is. I want Nintendo to unify their OS so that they can develop more games because it will be easier for the developers to learn and code for, not so they can release the same games on both platforms because there will be zero reason for me to buy the console then



                  

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zorg1000 said:

NX Portable-$199.99, between Xbox 360 & Wii U in terms of specs that can handle Wii U level visuals/ports on a single 5" screen at 540p.

NX Console-$199.99, between Wii U & Xbox One in terms of specs that plays the same games at 1080p with some extra graphical effects.

 


No, and no.

The handheld is keeping the two screens, and the console will be stronger than the PS4 and likely still keep the screen controller. No one in the west is buying a 9th generation console that's weaker than all of the 8th generation consoles.

A unified platform in no way means shitty console hardware.



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zorg1000 said:
MohammadBadir said:
Because that Console would fail. harddddddd.


Just like the last 3 out of 4 Nintendo consoles, which all failed to get more than 20% marketshare?

Also that's not a real reason for not wanting a completely unified ecosystem.


I've added a bunch of stuff to my post :-|



RolStoppable said:

First off, the price of the hardware (Wii U and 3DS) is a problem because Nintendo messed up badly. This could be rectified by not making braindead decisions for future hardware. Nevermind that people had no problem to put down $400 for a Wii and a DS, so price isn't really such a big issue as you make it out to be.

Secondly, the reason why Nintendo should not entirely unify their platforms is because it would hold back both devices. Neither one would be allowed to do something that the other can't and that would be lame. Nintendo would forego having unique selling points, so the likely result would be that their overall hardware sales go down because people who used to own both devices before would now only own one.


It worked out fine for the ipad. I really don't think that's really an issue. People would buy the handheld if they want to play their games on the go. That's it. I think there are a lot more people who would buy both for those reasons alone. Anecdotally, if I could play the next console Metroid game on the go, with cross save alowing me to pick up from where I left off, that would sell me the handheld right there. If I could play the next Pokemon game on my home console, and the game was made to be a satisfying home experience because of that, that's reason enough to own the home console for me. I'd already buy all those games anyway. I'd only be interested in the hardware for the luxury at that point. And I think that for every person they lose who doesn't care about that luxury, they gain someone who does.



Captain_Yuri said:

Because I don't want the handheld experience on my $3500 TV... If they are giving both games for free, there is no way that they will put noticeably more effort into the console version because they will be losing money then... And if they don't put more effort into the console version, then there is no way it will run at 1080p native and that $200 hardware will limit that 1080p part too... It will be lucky to even run at 720p 60fps

On top of that, I don't want another wiiU level of graphics in their next gen console because I have the wiiU for that and at a $200 price point, there is no way that it will be noticeably better than the wiiU in terms of power nor will it be able to render games at 1080p specially considering that not even the x1/ps4 can do it with all their games.

I buy their console because I want their console experience, not because I want the same experience as their handheld, just slightly better... I want it to be leagues better and it is. I want Nintendo to unify their OS so that they can develop more games because it will be easier for the developers to learn and code for, not so they can release the same games on both platforms because there will be zero reason for me to buy the console then

PS4/XB1 struggle to do 1080p because the majority of big games made for them are trying to push hyper-realistic, top of the line visuals, that's not really the type of games Nintendo emphasizes on.

I don't really know what u mean by handheld experience or console experience, most Nintendo games are equally suited for both. Mario Kart 7 & Mario Kart 8? Super Smash 3D & Super Smash U? Mario 3D Land & Mario 3D World? DKC Returns 3D & Tropical Freeze? Paper Mario, Animal Crossing, etc. all function the same on either form factor.

A single unified ecosystem where u can get 20+ Nintendo games per year sounds a whole lot better than buying two seperate devices that each get 10 or so Nintendo games per year.



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shikamaru317 said:

I agree that they shouldn't be fully unified. I'd like to see both devices get some exclusives. The console should hopefully be getting many of the same games as Xbox One and PS4 (assuming that they go with x86 and have specs that are at least close to Xbox One), and the developers of those games won't want the specs of the handheld holding them back, so they would likely develop for the console only.


If the entire point of the unified platform is to make the system easily scalable, there should be nothing holding anything back. It would be like running thinks on extremely low setting on the weaker device, with the infrastructure making that process as simple as possible for its devs.



spemanig said:
zorg1000 said:

NX Portable-$199.99, between Xbox 360 & Wii U in terms of specs that can handle Wii U level visuals/ports on a single 5" screen at 540p.

NX Console-$199.99, between Wii U & Xbox One in terms of specs that plays the same games at 1080p with some extra graphical effects.

 


No, and no.

The handheld is keeping the two screens, and the console will be stronger than the PS4 and likely still keep the screen controller. No one in the west is buying a 9th generation console that's weaker than all of the 8th generation consoles.

A unified platform in no way means shitty console hardware.


It's just an example, the hardware doesn't have to be exactly like that, they could go ur route as well but the same principal exists.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.