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sborwege said:
I agree some points are valid. Other ideas seemed liked they were taken from a biased bgr.com article. Nintendo hasn't been perfect but to maintain credibility you need to make it seem like your negatives aren't from online critics who have never played it.


Never even heard of that website. Got a link though? I'll read it.



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I'm the kind of person that can take a good hard look at these petty requests/complaints, go "ok, then", and then get back to playing video games on the Wii U that I own.

Once again, even the Wii U has many flaws, at least it's an actual games console, and not an entertainment system that happens to have games.

In any case, this is just an opinion, and a heavily subjective one, at that. This also my opinion as well. Take it as you will.



I actually love my Wii U. Its my favorite Nintendo Console. Didnt really like Wii. Buy a Wii U you will love it!



Angelv577 said:
It would have been worse for Wii U if it were at least on par with ps4/xbox specs, the cost would have been higher than it's right now unless Nintendo dropped off the tablet pad for a convential one. I agree that the name is one of the worst ever. The rest could be more or less why Wii U is failing.


I dont think so, the wiiu has for example no hardrive which decreases costs, the x1 has its extra hdmi port which is useless in pal regions and it starded with kinect. Nintendo would have been compative if their console would have be stronger at the time.



Let me just say that while I find an abundance of flaws with the business side of the Wii U, in terms of personal enjoyment, its already one of my favourite consoles of all time.



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McDonaldsGuy said:
fleischr said:
OP, do you own a WiiU?

Always seems like we get threads like these from people who don't actually *own* a WiiU.


That's the problem - I have no desire to even own a Wii U (though I have played it).

The Wii is the only console I ever waited in line for during launch. I waited in line for multiple Wii games as well (Brawl and Galaxy). I even loved the GameCube and thought it was amazing. That's why the Wii U baffles me so much, because I have no desire to even buy it even if it was $100 (okay maybe I would to play Bayonetta 2).


You can always tell the difference between someone who actually owns a console and who doesn't but just feels like whining about it. Your posts would be a lot more credible if you were in the former camp. Speaking of credibility:

McDonaldsGuy said:


- The weak hardware. What the heck Nintendo? It made sense for the Wii because of the controller. The Wii U does not have that luxury. They couldn't give us at least something that could be ALMOST near the PS4/One? Maybe a Dreamcast to the PS2? Instead we get something weaker than the Xbox 360 and PS3 and then Nintendo charges us $349 for it! What the heck were they thinking? Unbelievable.

And then:

McDonaldsGuy said:

- The Wii U is at most barely more powerful than the PS3 and 360 which is unacceptable in 2012 and unacceptable to charge $349 for it

Dude, you're basically making two completely different statements and undermining your own argument. The OP reads like a drunken rant fueled by frustration and made with reckless abandon, without any desire to check for any facts. I have no problem with you or anyone making valid criticisms of a console or manufacturer, but you're reaching for any little argument you can clutch and trying to work whatever sounds good into a semi-coherent argument. For instance, blaming Skyward Sword's sales strictly on its art style, when it came out at the very end of 2011, an extremely barren year for the Wii (that was pretty much dead in most people's eyes) and requiring the purchase of new hardware (either an add-on for the Wii remote or a new controller entirely), a la Majora's Mask. Whenever games require extra hardware just to play them, it typically hurts their sales.

I really should just stop clicking on these types of threads, because most of them are made by people who really don't have the ability to make valid, founded and unbiased complaints that they can express in a consistent and thoughtful manner.



burninmylight said:

Dude, you're basically making two completely different statements and undermining your own argument. The OP reads like a drunken rant fueled by frustration and made with reckless abandon, without any desire to check for any facts. I have no problem with you or anyone making valid criticisms of a console or manufacturer, but you're reaching for any little argument you can clutch and trying to work whatever sounds good into a semi-coherent argument. For instance, blaming Skyward Sword's sales strictly on its art style, when it came out at the very end of 2011, an extremely barren year for the Wii (that was pretty much dead in most people's eyes) and requiring the purchase of new hardware (either an add-on for the Wii remote or a new controller entirely), a la Majora's Mask. Whenever games require extra hardware just to play them, it typically hurts their sales.

I really should just stop clicking on these types of threads, because most of them are made by people who really don't have the ability to make valid, founded and unbiased complaints that they can express in a consistent and thoughtful manner.

In my original post, I was going to call the guy out as a hypocrite, too, but the statements I found that I thought were hypocritical actually really weren't. So, thanks for doing it for me. 



burninmylight said:


You can always tell the difference between someone who actually owns a console and who doesn't but just feels like whining about it. Your posts would be a lot more credible if you were in the former camp. Speaking of credibility:

McDonaldsGuy said:


- The weak hardware. What the heck Nintendo? It made sense for the Wii because of the controller. The Wii U does not have that luxury. They couldn't give us at least something that could be ALMOST near the PS4/One? Maybe a Dreamcast to the PS2? Instead we get something weaker than the Xbox 360 and PS3 and then Nintendo charges us $349 for it! What the heck were they thinking? Unbelievable.

And then:

McDonaldsGuy said:

- The Wii U is at most barely more powerful than the PS3 and 360 which is unacceptable in 2012 and unacceptable to charge $349 for it

Dude, you're basically making two completely different statements and undermining your own argument. The OP reads like a drunken rant fueled by frustration and made with reckless abandon, without any desire to check for any facts. I have no problem with you or anyone making valid criticisms of a console or manufacturer, but you're reaching for any little argument you can clutch and trying to work whatever sounds good into a semi-coherent argument. For instance, blaming Skyward Sword's sales strictly on its art style, when it came out at the very end of 2011, an extremely barren year for the Wii (that was pretty much dead in most people's eyes) and requiring the purchase of new hardware (either an add-on for the Wii remote or a new controller entirely), a la Majora's Mask. Whenever games require extra hardware just to play them, it typically hurts their sales.

I really should just stop clicking on these types of threads, because most of them are made by people who really don't have the ability to make valid, founded and unbiased complaints that they can express in a consistent and thoughtful manner.


Actually it proves my point even more so. The fact is the power of the Wii U should be made 100% clear, instead it's a debate: is it more powerful or not? That's a question that should NOT have been asked in 2012, and it should NOT have cost $349. For $349 it should have been CLEARLY more powerful than the 360 and PS3.

And Skyward Sword's sales are definitely reflective of its ugly art style. Don't believe me? Compare Wind Waker HD sales to OOT 3D sales - clear difference. Don't believe me still? Look at the reaction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VE2Dc1sx71U People were ESTATIC for Twilight Princess. On the other hand Skyward Sword got a huge "Oh come on!" when revealed (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhmcBXgnrC8 go to 2:20 mark).

People want a REALISTIC Zelda, they have made this clear.



It seems like a lot of the people who own WiiU's don't agree with the OP. I don't own one (I was going to get one this past Christmas when Target had that great deal where a WiiU and Super Mario 3d World was $200, but the local Targets were all out of stock), and I actually agree with the OP on many of these points.

The tech is dated (no, not worse than X360 or PS3, but really nothing to compare to X1 or PS4).

The gamepad is near useless at worse or niche at best (give me a $200 WiiU with no gamepad...I bet a lot of people would be all over that).

Games like Super Mario 3d World or 8 player Smash (yes, 4 player Smash is online) could have definitely done better with an online experience considering they are multiplayer games.

Even though Wind Waker looks awesome for WiiU, Nintendo got a lot of flack for not delivering a Zelda that looked like the 2012 demo.

The online experience is bare bones compared to Xbox Live and PSN. Same for Virtual console (you even have to re-buy the same games on Virtual Console due to the lack of an integrated online experience).

Even though they have been selling well, Amiibos ARE basically collectables, as they don't have a game to really show off their use ala Disney Infinity or Skylanders and the uses they do have are corny.

Third party exclusives are alright, but many of the AAA games which a large portion of the gamer community wants to play are not on WiiU. Many of these games are even coming to PS360.

Even though new IPs are in development, they are mostly niche titles (Splattoon, Wonderful 101).

Even though I don't really think the name is dumb, WiiU is actually very confusing. Several people I know didn't even know it was something different from the Wii. That can't be a good thing.

For all the WiiU apologists, even if you enjoy your console, even if it has many redeeming qualities (including arguably the best game lineup of 2014), many of these complaints shared by the OP, myself or people who don't own a WiiU are not any less valid. It's probably the reason why WiiU will continue to sell so badly until Nintendo finds a way to turn it around with their nextgen console. I'm still rooting for them. I just hope they see the error of their ways like Sony did with PS4 in relation to PS3's faults.



McDonaldsGuy said:
burninmylight said:


You can always tell the difference between someone who actually owns a console and who doesn't but just feels like whining about it. Your posts would be a lot more credible if you were in the former camp. Speaking of credibility:

McDonaldsGuy said:


- The weak hardware. What the heck Nintendo? It made sense for the Wii because of the controller. The Wii U does not have that luxury. They couldn't give us at least something that could be ALMOST near the PS4/One? Maybe a Dreamcast to the PS2? Instead we get something weaker than the Xbox 360 and PS3 and then Nintendo charges us $349 for it! What the heck were they thinking? Unbelievable.

And then:

McDonaldsGuy said:

- The Wii U is at most barely more powerful than the PS3 and 360 which is unacceptable in 2012 and unacceptable to charge $349 for it

Dude, you're basically making two completely different statements and undermining your own argument. The OP reads like a drunken rant fueled by frustration and made with reckless abandon, without any desire to check for any facts. I have no problem with you or anyone making valid criticisms of a console or manufacturer, but you're reaching for any little argument you can clutch and trying to work whatever sounds good into a semi-coherent argument. For instance, blaming Skyward Sword's sales strictly on its art style, when it came out at the very end of 2011, an extremely barren year for the Wii (that was pretty much dead in most people's eyes) and requiring the purchase of new hardware (either an add-on for the Wii remote or a new controller entirely), a la Majora's Mask. Whenever games require extra hardware just to play them, it typically hurts their sales.

I really should just stop clicking on these types of threads, because most of them are made by people who really don't have the ability to make valid, founded and unbiased complaints that they can express in a consistent and thoughtful manner.


Actually it proves my point even more so. The fact is the power of the Wii U should be made 100% clear, instead it's a debate: is it more powerful or not? That's a question that should NOT have been asked in 2012, and it should NOT have cost $349. For $349 it should have been CLEARLY more powerful than the 360 and PS3.

It's only a debate because of poor 3rd party ports and the fact that people always want to insist that Nintendo hardware is weak.  People say that the 3DS is weaker than the PSP, even now.  People say that the 3DS graphics look like PS1 graphics.  People apparently still think that the Gamecube is weaker than the PS2.