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Complete reversal of last gen.



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PS4 had that second processor! What a twist! Xbox One is definitely slow but you don't need to wait for the full game (for most at least) to install to start playing, I thought there was a chart floating around here at what % it needs to be to start the game.



now im 99% percent sure this is completely correct info, but i havent gotten any official things to back these claims up with. its as detailed as possible.

both the ps4 and xbox one has to install the full size of the game to its harddrive. the difference between the two system lies in that the ps4 only has to install a portion of the game (part of its play as you download incentive i believe) whereas the xbox one requires the full game to install before being able to play it.

this means that for example you can start playing the first level in cod much earlier on ps4. while you are playing it continues to install in the background. now say you already have a save file on the game. you then delete the other assets off the hdd and install it again and try to boot up level 5 or so. you would not be able to do that.

now from my gatherings not all xbox one titles require a full installation. i know ryse son of rome pretty quickly lets you enter the main menu and from there it installs whatever mode you press to play. the difference is it isnt broken down in tiny level pieces but rather into singleplayer and multiplayer modes. this is the most obvious example of the bigger install times..

when playing watch dogs i noticed i had to stop laying for a little while after the intro mission because afterwards it had to install the entire map.i dont think there is any way to track your progress with installation on either system (at least as far as i know) but at least on the ps4 i can say that any installation (besides watchdogs) i havent had to wait at all after the inital 20-30 seconds.



Wait, so after almost a year the Xbone still hasn't fixed those install times yet? Don't people brag every day about software updates from MS on here. Maybe MS should concentrate on "gaming" updates for people rather then internet pirates being able to play back .MKV files..



Barozi said:
Brutalyst said:

I recently swapped the PS4 500 gb HDD for a 2TB one, and the first thing I did was re-install all the games. Even the largest games like TLOU which takes 50gb only took less than 60 seconds and I removed the disc. UNless it only part installed it and even though I removed the disc it would continue to install the next time I put the disc back in? (I guess it might be doing that, no way to tell or see it though)

Probably. I don't have any next gen console, but I can tell you that there doesn't exist a HDD that could transfer data at such high rates.

The fastest HDD has a write speed of about 250 MB/s under ideal circumstances. the fastest SSD about 500 MB/s under ideal circumstances.

on the HDD TLOU would need 205 seconds
on the SSD TLOU would need 102 seconds

Chances are that your 2TB HDD doesn't have 10000rpm and doesn't run under ideal circumstances and has a write speed of closer to ~150 MB/s, which would then take 341 seconds.

This is because the PS4 doesn't actually fully install the game. It installs just enough of it for you to start playing the game and then continues intsalling the game in the background. Basically its designed to get you into any game in less than a minute. typically, especially if playing a game for the first time, by the tim eyou get to the start screen, play around with the menues and start the first level or whatever you would probably have been dallying around for about 10mins. By the time you actually strat playing teh game the rest of it would have been installed.



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I read this once on an article and it said that the ps4 doesn't install the whole game unlike the Xbox one. Ps4 basically does what the 360 does since you still need the disc to play. The driver on the Xbox one were set to install the whole game since the disc didn't need to be in the drive in order to play before. That is the reason why it takes longer on Xbox one but I hope it can be fixed with a software update.



Intrinsic said:
Barozi said:

Probably. I don't have any next gen console, but I can tell you that there doesn't exist a HDD that could transfer data at such high rates.

The fastest HDD has a write speed of about 250 MB/s under ideal circumstances. the fastest SSD about 500 MB/s under ideal circumstances.

on the HDD TLOU would need 205 seconds
on the SSD TLOU would need 102 seconds

Chances are that your 2TB HDD doesn't have 10000rpm and doesn't run under ideal circumstances and has a write speed of closer to ~150 MB/s, which would then take 341 seconds.

This is because the PS4 doesn't actually fully install the game. It installs just enough of it for you to start playing the game and then continues intsalling the game in the background. Basically its designed to get you into any game in less than a minute. typically, especially if playing a game for the first time, by the tim eyou get to the start screen, play around with the menues and start the first level or whatever you would probably have been dallying around for about 10mins. By the time you actually strat playing teh game the rest of it would have been installed.

That's exactly what I wrote in this thread.

I'm just saying that there can't be a difference (or at least a very big one) when it comes to copying data from disc to HDD on either PS4 or X1.

There are, from what I can see, two possibilities why the PS4 is able to finish the "install" earlier:

- The files aren't just copied from disc to HDD but extraced. That way the PS4 could have a hardware advantage and/or software advantage (better algorithm)
- From what I gathered the X1 automatically downloads the latest update while installing; the PS4 doesn't. Internet connection or XBL servers could be the limiting factor here.



It's not that ps4 installs faster, it just allows you to play partly from disc while installing. The disc speeds are the same on both consoles.

Some games on Xbox One allow play to start after around 10% install. I know Ryse did, as well as BF4. I was actually playing forza horizon 2 quicker than any ps4 game could dream of. I bought digital and downloaded and installed a week before it came out. I was playing at 12:00 am no waiting at all.



mornelithe said:
vivster said:
poklane said:

Here's a list of install times of some games:

Assassin's Creed IV:
Xbox One (offline, no update): 5 minutes 50 seconds
Xbox One (with update, fastest connection): 7 minutes 2 seconds
Xbox One (with update, 10Mbps connection): 10 minutes 32 seconds
PS4: 42 seconds

Need For Speed Rivals:
XBO: 09:25 (including update)
PS4: 00:32

Just Dance 2014:
XBO: 08:48 (including update)
PS4: 00:45

NBA Live 14:
XBO: 16:26 (including update)
PS4: 00:35

FIFA 14:
XBO: 16:06 (including update)
PS4: 00:34

Madden 25:
XBO: 9:38 (including update)
PS4: 00:38

http://kotaku.com/installing-xbox-one-games-takes-way-too-long-1471191836

I really wonder where those differences come from. It's the same developers and practically the same hardware. There must be something on the X1 that hinders partial installs. Or something on the PS4 that facilitates it.

If it's only a software issue MS should be able to patch it.

PS4 has a secondary ARM processor to assist with background installations and other OS features.

As I understand X1 has  separate ressources as well to facilitate multitasking. It's running multiple OS at the same time, so it will have virtualized ressources reserved for that. Background installing is not really a ressource hungry process.

Pretty sure it must be something in the software architecture.



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PlayGo is truly amazing feature.

It install while you play the game... that why it is a hell fast... I don't know how anybody can play without this feature and I expected just the first Xbone title with this issue and ano a recent release.

The patch system on PS4 is better than Xbone too... that is weird because the patch system in 360 was amazing good and years ahead PS3... now Xbone is like a step back even compared with PS3.