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Wikipedia defines Public Relations, herein abbreivated as PR, as:

the practice of managing the spread of information between an individual or an organization and the public.[1] Public relations may include an organization or individual gaining exposure to their audiences using topics of public interest and news items that do not require direct payment.[2] The aim of public relations is to persuade the public, prospective customers, investors, partners, employees, and other stakeholders to maintain a certain point of view about it, its leadership, products, or of political decisions.

This means that any control over the spread of information between an entity, such as an individual or an organization, and the publically is defined as PR. Control of information boils down to full secrecy (restraining access to information), total transparency (providing access to information), or any possible combination in between. If it is revealed to the public then it is PR. If it is revealed to a private party it is not PR, but if that private party reveals it publically then it now becomes PR.

PR has no relation to whether something validity or whether or not it is a fact or opinion.

The above is fact, the following is opinion:

Although facts, PR or not, are objectively true, I come from the school of thought that believes that all PR is made with an intention by the entity making the statement. If that PR is an opinion, then it is clearly skewed in favor of the person who stated it, and should be taken with a grain of salt at best and completely dismissed at worse. If that PR is a fact, then it holds more weight and it cannot be dismissed, but the intention or motive behind releasing that fact is what is to be considered in that circumstance.

 

And if you didn't read any of that here is for those with tiny attention spans:

Everything made public by an organization or individual publically is PR (Public Relations). This has no bearing on whether the statement is true, false, a fact, or an opinion.



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So does that mean that all education is considered PR, and that all teachers are PR agents?



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Does PR hold less weight if it can't be proven as a fact?



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vivster said:
Does PR hold less weight if it can't be proven as a fact?

Only Opinion cannot be proven as fact. As long as something is provable, in that it can be proven false or true, it is a factual claim.

That being said, a false claim while technically a fact, holds no weight whatsoever. But just like whether a statement is true or not, to say something is false it must be proven to be false.

So rather than assuming validity and factualness are the same thing, you would want to ask "Does PR holds less weight if it can't be proven as true", which doesn't necessarily means its false. I would say yes, because in that case its not wholly provable, and is like an opinion except it can be proven wrong.

That was a really good question.



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Nicklesbe said:
So does that mean that all education is considered PR, and that all teachers are PR agents?

I should more strongly point out that the information concerns the source.

Hence anything Google says is PR, anything the Media says about Google is not PR, but anything that Google tells the Media who then tell the public is PR about Goolge.

Thus education isn't PR, if a teacher tells his students about him personally its not PR, but if he or his students post information about him publically then it is PR.



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Was it really a really good question? or did it simply appear really good compared to my complete shite one? :P Honestly tho it was a good question.



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Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
vivster said:
Does PR hold less weight if it can't be proven as a fact?

Only Opinion cannot be proven as fact. As long as something is provable, in that it can be proven false or true, it is a factual claim.

That being said, a false claim while technically a fact, holds no weight whatsoever. But just like whether a statement is true or not, to say something is false it must be proven to be false.

So rather than assuming validity and factualness are the same thing, you would want to ask "Does PR holds less weight if it can't be proven as true", which doesn't necessarily means its false. I would say yes, because in that case its not wholly provable, and is like an opinion except it can be proven wrong.

That was a really good question.

Bolded is problematic. Especially in the context of PR. That would take unlimited trust.

With my question I was regarding statements that might be fact and might be proven as such but not in an appropriate timeframe to keep its relevance.

So what is your stance on default weight of unprovable possible facts? On a scale of 0 to 1. With 0 being dismissable and 1 being absolute trust.

This is to be taken also in the context of the initial level of majority public perception and trust.



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vivster said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
vivster said:
Does PR hold less weight if it can't be proven as a fact?

Only Opinion cannot be proven as fact. As long as something is provable, in that it can be proven false or true, it is a factual claim.

That being said, a false claim while technically a fact, holds no weight whatsoever. But just like whether a statement is true or not, to say something is false it must be proven to be false.

So rather than assuming validity and factualness are the same thing, you would want to ask "Does PR holds less weight if it can't be proven as true", which doesn't necessarily means its false. I would say yes, because in that case its not wholly provable, and is like an opinion except it can be proven wrong.

That was a really good question.

Bolded is problematic. Especially in the context of PR. That would take unlimited trust.

With my question I was regarding statements that might be fact and might be proven as such but not in an appropriate timeframe to keep its relevance.

So what is your stance on default weight of unprovable possible facts? On a scale of 0 to 1. With 0 being dismissable and 1 being absolute trust.

This is to be taken also in the context of the level public perception and trust.

Underlined is my answer, although I should be more direct.

Technically, speaking an fact that cannot be proven true, either because of time sensitivity or the effort needed to prove it true would hold the same weight as an opinion.

But its a matter of opinion itself whether this kind of Fact would be worth more weight than an opinion. Some people are happy enough that it cannot be proven false.



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Nicklesbe said:

Was it really a really good question? or did it simply appear really good compared to my complete shite one? :P Honestly tho it was a good question.

Your question was good, but Vivisters was really good, because it was a lot more difficult to be honest.



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Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
Nicklesbe said:

Was it really a really good question? or did it simply appear really good compared to my complete shite one? :P Honestly tho it was a good question.

Your question was good, but Vivisters was really good, because it was a lot more difficult to be honest.


Agreed. it does make me wonder tho. What inspired this insight into PR? Have some scuffs with it recently?



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