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If the PS4 wins this gen, consoles will become obsolete

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kirby007 said:

And selling +100million, this gen is gonna last so long that the consoles will be FAR behind mobile phones, making consoles lag far behind the curve.
If this gen will end up short, and the next gen actually will be on par with the technological developments, consoles might not be doomed.


Consoles are already, always have been, behind phones/PCs in raw number therms!

However, consoles are a great dedicated platform for games, so far we get different kind of games on them compared to the portable devices and the exclusives + more integrated experience compared to PCs (however if you setup a PC with Steam Big Picture Mode and a controller you are pretty close to a console with limitless power)...

What I think is needed now is console generations that are completely and truly backward compatible so that we keep our investment in the platform we picked, devs would win in this by avoiding the constant re-learning of completely new hardware and software on each release, platform owners would win with more consumer loyalty (I would gladly buy a PS4.5 that truy runs Killzone:SF or Infamous:SS at full 60fps by example, like people upgrade their PCs to run new games with ultra settings or at a better frame rate all the time).

Also allowing more apps to be made by 3rd party on the PS4 would help diversify the platform (MS seems to be a little wiser in that sense).

Does that all matter? not really, consoles are only vehicules for our games, if the better games of 2018 end up being released on the iPad and I can conveniently use a wireless controller and output on my TV I will gladly play them, and all old consoles will become collectibles, in the end they're all computers.



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Nintendo will never be obsolete, their games are just too much fun to play. No one has been able to kill them in over one hundred years now. Not very good reasoning...



Puppyroach said:
Consoles as we know them will change into a streaming like service, where you have your dedicated device, but at the same time can play on other devices as well. So it all depends on what you mean by consoles.


i really curious to see what sony and ms put forth for their next gen hardware.

i agree,.. services like psnow is quite likely to be big in the future.  that means, at least as an option, a next gen console should be small and inexpensive and merely capable of downloading the psnow app and various other apps (netflix, hbo go, pandora, ect.).   if even 20% of console buyers go the streaming route the ability to put out profitable dedicated hardware is a much harder proprisition.  it also limits the psnow services best quality,.. a lack of hardware dependance that truely allows improved infrastructure on a yearly or better basis.

it will be interesting to see how the fracture in gaming is handeled.   it could be spectactular or a spectactualar failure.  so hard to tell.



Longer gaming cycle=bigger improvement when they do release or cheaper consoles when they release, more time for devs to optimize, bang for your buck without support being cut off so soon (under 5 years is too soon for sure I like this past gen's timetable). I hope 2020 is when new consoles come out or whenever we can start 4k gaming at a reasonable price (including the TVs)




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Im not out on this right now.... the s10+ beats a base xo and ps4 but the x1x and ps4 pro muddened the water regarding my estimation.
Because if the next gen is only a bit stronger then the x1x or pro the phones are the way to go, expecially with stadia aswell in mind.



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kirby007 said:
Im not out on this right now.... the s10+ beats a base xo and ps4 but the x1x and ps4 pro muddened the water regarding my estimation.
Because if the next gen is only a bit stronger then the x1x or pro the phones are the way to go, expecially with stadia aswell in mind.

I will never play my games on a small ass screen like a phone or tablet.



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Hell of a necro-bump. No sir. PS4 has definitely won, but consoles are still going pretty strong.

Also, I think you’re seriously overestimating the practicality of Stadia.



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End of gen, phones get in range of consoles, then the next gen comes out. Cycle repeats. Still no AAA games on phones.



kirby007 said:
Im not out on this right now.... the s10+ beats a base xo and ps4 but the x1x and ps4 pro muddened the water regarding my estimation.
Because if the next gen is only a bit stronger then the x1x or pro the phones are the way to go, expecially with stadia aswell in mind.

You should have waited until the PS4 passes the 100M before necrobumping the thread for extra effect.



kirby007 said:
Im not out on this right now.... the s10+ beats a base xo and ps4 but the x1x and ps4 pro muddened the water regarding my estimation.
Because if the next gen is only a bit stronger then the x1x or pro the phones are the way to go, expecially with stadia aswell in mind.

I have no clue whether an S10+'s Snapdragon is equal to whatever CPU is in a base model PS4. The RAM looks fine at 8 - 12 GB. Current prices have that phone listed for $1000 on both Amazon and Best Buy though. So, even if an S10+ really were as powerful as a base model PS4, there would still be a ridiculous price gap. Or are consumers so idiotic that they will gladly pay a grand for a phone over four or five years of payments? 

We don't know enough about Stadia at this point to know if it will be a success. There's no price, and no list of games. Who knows if internet in the US will be good enough to run it for most consumers. 



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