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outlawauron said:
vfguy said:
outlawauron said:
For someone who supposedly visited these places, you're very ignorant about the used game market in Japan.

I hate this site sometimes. When I reported that Wii Us were in stock in my area in the days and weeks after launch I was called a liar.

When I reported that PS4s were in stock in the days and weeks after launch I was called a liar (oh and now ignorant!).

I'm sorry if you're offended, but it is ignorant to draw conclusions from used games and consoles. Living there, you know how good the trade-in prices are and know how often people return their game or console once they beat what they had with it. 24 consoles across a bunch stores in a populated area like Osaka means effectively nothing. Posting anecdotes about an area unknown to most of the forum generally will lead to misunderstanding, so again, I didn't want to personally insult you, but I don't think PS4 is domed like your OP suggests.

So you apologize for calling me ignorant and then call me ignorant again?

At no point in the OP do I say that the PS4 is doomed. I clearly state that I think that it will be a success, just less so than the previous generation. At least, based on the current situation.

In terms of my ignorance, I just live in Japan and shop in these stores all the time, but what do I know?

At my closest game store, the trade-in value of a PS4 camera bundle is 33000 yen. That means that whoever trades in their PS4 loses over 10000yen in the process (over $100).

Yesterday (Sunday) I went to two locations more out in the country north of Osaka and both had PS4 consoles. This is of course more anecdotal evidence. Should such evidence not be posted because it doesn't fit with your personal narrative about how the PS4 is doing in Japan? Should it not be posted because it does not cover the entire Japanese narrative of the PS4? Well, here is one narrative of how the PS4 is doing in Japan at the moment. There are simply lots of used PS4 consoles in circulation in the big cities and out in the country.

This is the entire used-Sony section of this store.

 

 

This is a Hard Off store north of Osaka. Hard Off stores are mostly located outside of the big cities.



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Talal said:
They realized that there aren't that many games out for it. One of my friends really regrets selling his PS3 to buy a PS4.

This. People were so excited by the gaming media that they felt they HAD to have a PS4 (and to a lesser extent, an Xbox One).  So many guys at work sold their 7th gen consoles and all of them regret it.  The 8th gen consoles will come into their own but right now they just don't have the games and are missing a ton of features that their predecessors had.



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vfguy said:

I went game shopping in Osaka today and I found many, many used PS4 consoles. Almost every store I went into had at least one used console. I did not take pictures at one of the Sofmap stores and at Super Potato as they appeared to only have one used PS4 in stock. Altogether I saw 24 used PS4s in the seven stores I went into.

/snip

There aren't that many interesting games for JP market yet, but also let's put this into perspective.

There are over half a million consoles in circulation in Japan.  Let's say there are 100 times more shops with similar numbers of consoles that you saw, so 2400 consoles.  That's still under 0.5% of consoles, so is it that news worthy?  It could even be just broken consoles that were returned and refurbished.



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There's plenty of used for any system, even LE. It just means the Japanese need money time to time



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DerNebel said:
People played Knack...


I loved that game! :X



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