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Forums - Sales Discussion - The PS4 is a MAJOR flop in Japan - we need to talk about it

Azhraell on 12 March 2014

I agree, PS4 will have a worse first year than Vita and Wii u. DOOM!!



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Soundwave on 12 March 2014

Honestly game machines are in tough versus phones for a number of reasons, for one they can't really compete as an overall entertainment device.

Phones play games, maybe not the greatest ones, but they are easy to pick up and play and get the job done for eating up some free time on the bus/train/lunch break/airport for 99 cents or even free.

But on top of that phones are incredible social networking devices, they are the center of most people's electronic social life from Facebook/Twitter/Instagram use to email to web browsing to essential day to day needs like Google Maps/navigation. And they have Youtube and music and video and all that jazz.

A game platform that really basically only plays games (and maybe movies) for $40-$60 a pop seems antiquated.

Because the US is a less mobile market that still values the concept of the big screen TV, home consoles still have a future here, but Japan is looking ugly even for dedicated handhelds.

That 3DS drop off year over year is a disaster and for all the tire pumping Vita is selling no where close to the PSP, it's a niche device if there ever was one. PS4's launch has been underwhelming and its a situation that's predictably going to get really ugly looking at its release docket for Japan, and the Wii U is a bomb there too. 



Nate4Drake on 12 March 2014
Fusioncode said:
superchunk said:
Well this just proves Japanese consumers are very smart and understand my logic in refusing to buy another non-Nintendo console.

But they're not buying the WiiU either, they're buying phones. I don't think that makes them very smart. 

tablet, phones, portable... it's amazing some members here don't know this... and continue to talk nonsense.

By the way, 35300 PS4 sold previous week > 3DS, good, and Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes – 10/9/9/10; let's enjoy the Game experience.



”Every great dream begins with a dreamer. Always remember, you have within you the strength, the patience, and the passion to reach for the stars to change the world.”

Harriet Tubman.

OdinHades on 12 March 2014

I missed "we need to talk about it" threads. :]



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Nate4Drake on 12 March 2014
OdinHades said:
I missed "we need to talk about it" threads. :]

that was the most important point...   does he need to speak with us ?    



”Every great dream begins with a dreamer. Always remember, you have within you the strength, the patience, and the passion to reach for the stars to change the world.”

Harriet Tubman.

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the2real4mafol on 12 March 2014

This is the only generation where every console has been said to be a flop at one point or other lol
Always one person jumping on the bandwagon



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NintendoPie on 12 March 2014
Nate4Drake said:

that was the most important point...   does he need to speak with us ?    

Clearly. Who else is going to bring the murky truth to these forums other than Rol?

Were you going to post this thread? No? Exactly!



Ashadian on 12 March 2014
kowenicki said:
Ashadian said:
RolStoppable said:

Hey guys,

I thought we need to talk about this:

According to Famitsu, the PS4 sold 30,766 units in its third week in Japan. That's approximately 90k units below what the Wii U did during its third week. When we look at launch aligned LTD numbers, the PS4 has already fallen 150k units behind the Wii U. Let's be honest here, this is a MAJOR flop. Not even the typical system-selling power of Knack can turn this console into a success.

Before the PS4 launch many people have said that Sony doesn't really care about consumers. Putting online multiplayer behind a paywall, among other things, indicate that this is the truth.

So can we still say that Sony doesn't care about gamers? Let's take a look:

3DS's third week: 96.463
PSV's third week: 42,648
PS4's third week: 30,766, but probably overtracked.

For further comparison, the Wii U sold 122,356 units in its third week. For Sony that's pretty much the equivalent of being proven to be dumber than an idiot. Now what?


When was the Wii U released? Was it in February? Or was it in the Holidays?

Was the Wii U cheaper at release than PS4????

PS4 will be a success in Japan just like the PS3!

Compare launch PS3 figures to PS4??? Or did u conveniently forget that????

Hasn't the PS4 surpassed worldwide Wii U sales???

All this without any really big super exclusive!

I think you should stick to Nintendo sales


The PS3 has sold about half what the PS1, PS2 and PSP have in Japan.  

 

Japanese console market is shrinking fast. Where before Japan lead with console launches it now follows USA and Europe. Sony not launching in Japan first should tell you that Japan isn't the market it once was. I expect PS4 to outsell the PS3 in japan!



brendude13 on 12 March 2014
Cheebee said:
This is preposterous; let's at least wait until it's had its first holiday season before we judge it.

I thought we universally agreed that it's after the third holiday season that we stop making excuses.



Figgycal on 12 March 2014
Ashadian said:
kowenicki said:
Ashadian said:
RolStoppable said:

Hey guys,

I thought we need to talk about this:

According to Famitsu, the PS4 sold 30,766 units in its third week in Japan. That's approximately 90k units below what the Wii U did during its third week. When we look at launch aligned LTD numbers, the PS4 has already fallen 150k units behind the Wii U. Let's be honest here, this is a MAJOR flop. Not even the typical system-selling power of Knack can turn this console into a success.

Before the PS4 launch many people have said that Sony doesn't really care about consumers. Putting online multiplayer behind a paywall, among other things, indicate that this is the truth.

So can we still say that Sony doesn't care about gamers? Let's take a look:

3DS's third week: 96.463
PSV's third week: 42,648
PS4's third week: 30,766, but probably overtracked.

For further comparison, the Wii U sold 122,356 units in its third week. For Sony that's pretty much the equivalent of being proven to be dumber than an idiot. Now what?


When was the Wii U released? Was it in February? Or was it in the Holidays?

Was the Wii U cheaper at release than PS4????

PS4 will be a success in Japan just like the PS3!

Compare launch PS3 figures to PS4??? Or did u conveniently forget that????

Hasn't the PS4 surpassed worldwide Wii U sales???

All this without any really big super exclusive!

I think you should stick to Nintendo sales


The PS3 has sold about half what the PS1, PS2 and PSP have in Japan.  

 

Japanese console market is shrinking fast. Where before Japan lead with console launches it now follows USA and Europe. Sony not launching in Japan first should tell you that Japan isn't the market it once was. I expect PS4 to outsell the PS3 in japan!

I'm not making a formal prediciton, but I think PS4 will sell about as well as the PS3. I see it doing 9-12 mil in 6 years.