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Somini said:
tbone51 said:
Somini said:
No it does not. Xbone sells more 3rd party software than WiiU could ever dream of.


Ummm ok? Yes thats true but that means all games now? Yeahhhh...Think about that

What are you even saying, if anything? Important 3rd party software have no place on the WiiU, that has been proven time and time again. There is a reason why there is virtually no support on the WiiU outside of Nintendo itself.


Never disagreed with that, but your statement isnt 100% true. There are some franchises that WiiU>X1 in. Be it being only a handfull but thats not the point. Kingdom Hearts has a fanbase on nintendo platforms, thats a fact. Thats all im getting at, obviously WiiU power is weaker to tht of X1 hence no KH3 but if it were then it would be pretty naive to put X1 over WiiU for KH3. But im going to guess your going to disagree



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Zero999 said:
outlawauron said:
Zero999 said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
Lets get somethings clear here:
FFvXIII was originally a ps3 exclusive, SE rebranded it as FFXV to get it on the PS4 and XB1(Which they expected to have a larger market share + dev costs of their engines was tanking them, which is also why they made 3 ffxIII)
FFXV would definitely be a downport, thus we have the problem of porting costs vs expected sales. Not to mention the game would face heavier competition on the Wii U from Bayo2 and X.

In Regards to Kingdom Hearts III, the numbered Kingdom Hearts have never been on Nintendo platforms, and SE is making multiplatform again because of money.
However, since the 3DS game is the closest in terms of story to 3, one could argue that it has a nintendo fanbase, but thats a strectch cause not every 3ds owner has a wii u and numbered kh never go to handhelds.

In the same "logic", KH was never on xbox and will be 10 years since it was on a sony home console. 4 KH are on nintendo platforms and sold very well there, period.

the games would run very well on wii u and would profit a lot.

Your spin is outrageous. You're very good at what you do. Not to mention there's more KH games for PS3 than there have ever been on Nintendo platforms.

Game wouldn't run period on Wii U, would take an entirely new team to develop it alongside of the current version.

ps3 got 3 KH games through a collection, nintendo systems have 4 KH games.

what if it takes more people for the port? isn't that what developers do all the time? the games would run and would sell a lot.


Why are you excluding the PSP game, BBS? PlayStation systems also have 4 KH games but in addition have the HD Remakes + the CGI videos of the spinoffs.



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DerNebel said:
Zero999 said:

ps3 got 3 KH games through a collection, nintendo systems have 4 KH games.

what if it takes more people for the port? isn't that what developers do all the time? the games would run and would sell a lot.

Define "a lot"

million sellers.



Zero999 said:
outlawauron said:

Your spin is outrageous. You're very good at what you do. Not to mention there's more KH games for PS3 than there have ever been on Nintendo platforms.

Game wouldn't run period on Wii U, would take an entirely new team to develop it alongside of the current version.

ps3 got 3 KH games through a collection, nintendo systems have 4 KH games.

what if it takes more people for the port? isn't that what developers do all the time? the games would run and would sell a lot.

KH1.5 has KH1, Chains of Memories, and special summary of 358/2 Days (2 games if you don't want to count 358/2). KH2.5 has KH2, Birth By Sleep, and Re:coded. That's 5 games. Not sure on what they're doing with Re:coded, it may get a similar treatment to 358/2 because it's terrible. Even if you don't count re:coded, it has 4 games (equal number but far surpassed in importance and quality), and the two worst games in the series are at represented in some form.

The whole reason budgets are so high is because you need larger development teams over a longer period of time. So, you're suggesting adding a different team to redevelop the game to be downported to a console that doesn't sell 3rd party software. Seems like a giant waste of budget. People who like Japanese RPGs will buy a PS4 if they want console JRPGs. PS3 got 80%+ of the JRPGs last gen, it's only going to be worse this generation (although the quantity will likely be lower as console gaming declines).



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aryu said:
Zero999 said:
outlawauron said:

Your spin is outrageous. You're very good at what you do. Not to mention there's more KH games for PS3 than there have ever been on Nintendo platforms.

Game wouldn't run period on Wii U, would take an entirely new team to develop it alongside of the current version.

ps3 got 3 KH games through a collection, nintendo systems have 4 KH games.

what if it takes more people for the port? isn't that what developers do all the time? the games would run and would sell a lot.


Why are you excluding the PSP game, BBS? PlayStation systems also have 4 KH games but in addition have the HD Remakes + the CGI videos of the spinoffs.

He said ps3 had more KH games than all nintendo systems. i'm not excluding anything.



Zero999 said:
aryu said:
Zero999 said:
outlawauron said:

Your spin is outrageous. You're very good at what you do. Not to mention there's more KH games for PS3 than there have ever been on Nintendo platforms.

Game wouldn't run period on Wii U, would take an entirely new team to develop it alongside of the current version.

ps3 got 3 KH games through a collection, nintendo systems have 4 KH games.

what if it takes more people for the port? isn't that what developers do all the time? the games would run and would sell a lot.


Why are you excluding the PSP game, BBS? PlayStation systems also have 4 KH games but in addition have the HD Remakes + the CGI videos of the spinoffs.

He said ps3 had more KH games than all nintendo systems. i'm not excluding anything.


ah right, I missed that.



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shikamaru317 said:
novasonic said:
Agreed. With a similar install base, JRPGs will sell way more on Wii U than Xbox One.

That's not necessarily true. I give you two examples: 

Mistwalker released Lost Odyssey on Xbox 360 and The Last Story on Wii, but despite the Wii having a larger install base and costing less than the 360, Lost Odyssey on 360 still sold better than The Last Story on Wii.

Namco Tales released Tales of Vesperia on Xbox 360 and Tales of Symphonia 2 on the Wii, but despite the Wii having a larger install base and costing less than the 360, Tales of Vesperia on 360 still outsold Tales of Symphonia 2 on Wii.  

tales of symphonia 2 was a crappy game.



shikamaru317 said:
starworld said:

doesn't an HD 5770 have 800 shaders vs wii u 160

Yeah, I think he meant to say 5550, that's what the Wii U's GPU seems to be based on. 


I wasn't comparing this GPU to the Wii U's. I used it to illustrate my point that even if something can use the features, it doesn't mean it will be able to use them well. The 5770 may be able to handle tesselation, but turn them on in conjonction with everything else running on a given modern engine, and you'll have crap poor performances. I used Tomb Raider as an example, since I saw it run on a 5770 and it did poorly with tesselation and tressFX turned on at even 720p.



tbone51 said:

Kingdom Hearts has a fanbase on nintendo platforms, thats a fact. 


You're making the assumption with this that Nintendo handheld fanbase = Nintendo home console fanbase.  I'd certainly agree there's a degree of overlap between the two but I don't think you can say that just because they're on one, they're on the other (or WiiU would be selling better!)

Otherwise we'd be saying "Kingdom Hearts has a fanbase on Sony platforms" and so the game should be coming to Vita before anything else, which obviously isn't the case.

Not that there's any indication that X1 has any better fanbase, but if X1 keeps a hold of any of the PS2 -> 360 converts, then I think it will do.

I don't really know where the Kingdom Hearts fanbase is these days.  Square have done such a shit job of handling the franchise following #2 that I'm pretty sure they just fragmented and dissipated by this point.