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osed125 said:
Because Sony fans aren't buying it


Yes I am a Sony fan. But like I said, I would rather play those game on the PS3.



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sth88 said:
Yeah, they don't have a Vita-only system seller like Nintendo has Pokemon.

Also, price. People aren't willing to pay that high of a price for a handheld, and as a result developers aren't keen to put a lot of games on a platform that isn't selling. Sure, the graphics are way better than on the cheaper 3DS, but graphics don't really matter to people who buy handhelds. It's too small of a screen for it to really matter that much in terms of immersion.


The Vita is cheaper than the 3DS... (in Europe at least). And a 3DS XL which doesn't even have a charging cable included costs quite a bit more.

It's only arguable that the 2DS is cheaper, but when you can get Vita + Mem Card + 10 games for £140. By the time you've added your game to the 2DS, they're practically identical in price.



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If people are looking at the Wii-U , a home console that has sold around 5 million and say that this is good and can only get better, but then turn around look at the Vita which is a handheld (which is supposed to be less desirable than a home console), it has sold over 6 million, but state that it is not selling well ?

Compared to the 3DS, its not. Its getting killed, but the maching is pushing over 100k a week. Thats not a bad number at all. If the Vita can go o to sell above 80 million as the PSP did, I would say that's a win for Sony.

IMO the Vita needs 3 things to see a huge sales spike.
(1) Better marketing. Make a 60 sec commercial showcasing raw in game shots/ Media features/Photo app/Netflix/ Killzone footage, Sackboy's face at least 10 times during the clip, Tearaway, Need For Speed gameplay.

(2) Lower the blasted memory card prices. There is no reason for them to be this expensive. Most 36 gig SD cards are selling for around $20. You do this, gamer's will purchase more games

(3) Lower the price to $150. Don't get me wrong, the $179 price point is good, but in a market where smart phone games are so convenient and cheap, purchasing a handheld at around $200 is not an easy purchase.

If Sony can bundle the PS4 + Vita at a price point of $550 in the near future, I see the PS4 demand boosting Vita sales through Jan 2014 and beyond...... Keep on Gaming.




sth88 said:
Yeah, they don't have a Vita-only system seller like Nintendo has Pokemon.

Also, price. People aren't willing to pay that high of a price for a handheld, and as a result developers aren't keen to put a lot of games on a platform that isn't selling. Sure, the graphics are way better than on the cheaper 3DS, but graphics don't really matter to people who buy handhelds. It's too small of a screen for it to really matter that much in terms of immersion.

Yet the 3DS XL is the best selling model of 3DS system, and it's the exact same price.

The way I see it, 3DS is weaker, but it has 3D which is properly awesome. So I put both on par graphically, or at least to the point where I don't care about the difference.

The big problem with Vita, is the same issue PSP had. Most of the library is composed of PS3 clones. So far the biggest games for Vita IMO are stuff I can play on my PS3, better. Killzone, Uncharted, Assassin's Creed, Persona and Disgaea are the biggest franchises on the PSV IMO, and all those games are playable on PS3 (or PS2). As much as I want a PSV for Disgaea, I'm not going to shell out $200 on a console for one game.

3DS however has physical backward compatibility, so I can play all my DS games on the bigger screen. Plus with handheld dedicated franchises like Advance Wars, Super Mario 3D Land, Pokemon, Bravely Default, Luigi's Mansion, and others, it's a great buy. Sure some games are console clones (like Mario Kart, and Mario Party), but I didn't buy my 3DS primarily for these games, I picked them up along the way.



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I know one thing, if Sony keeps on making funky dedicated handheld games like Gravity Rush and Tearaway, I will have to buy one.



NeoRatt said:
Why is the Vita not selling well?

When it comes to handheld consoles it is all about handheld games...

If it was all the other features then people say "why would I buy a handheld rather than a tablet or smart phone"... Sure handhelds are generally cheaper, but tablets and smart phones have the plethora of app support.

So, when it comes to games... Nintendo is associated with handheld franchises such as Pokémon, Mario, etc. While Sony's name is associated with console franchises such as God of War, Unchartered, Killzone, etc... The Nintendo games are well suited to handheld devices while the Sony franchises are strong with full fledged controllers. (Although I do really love the God of War games on Sony Handhelds)...

I think the Vita devices are better than the DS devices. But, there are not many very good handheld franchises in the Sony world. While Nintendo's name is almost synonymous with handheld franchises.

All handheld game on Vita bomb that mean people would have home console game on their Vita



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m

riecsou said:
small44 said:
riecsou said:

I have been wondering why isn't the Vita selling. I look at the library and even the video on youtube. They have very nice games and nice graphics. But while watching those videos I keept having the same feeling for almost every games: "Man if they had made this game on PS3 I would bought it".

And I went to look at the top 10 best selling Vita games: Uncharted, COD, Assassin's Creed, Persona, LittleBigPlanet, Need For Speed, Fifa, Hot shots, Mortal Kombat, Soul Sacrifice. It seems to me that the Vita library is actually competing against the PS3 library.

I see those names and I am like, I can play them better on my PS3, or I would buy those if they were on the PS3. Let us not fool ourselves, handheld market are the kids. Whenever you go to a family home, you will see those kids on Tablet or cell phone playing kid's game. And the 3DS actually offer those games to the kids. Those game that you would play for like 10 minutes and go do something else, than open your handled again for another 20 minutes... Those PS vita games look like games you need to sit (just like a home console), be focus and serious (just like a home console), make sure you have time cause this is going to take a while (just like a home console). PS vita library seems to be competing with the PS3 libraries...

PS Vita have games, I would really like to play them but not on the Vita. Vita doesn't have the games for the market they should pursue.

Terraway is a handheld like game and it's for kids but it's is a big fail, Uncharted, COD, Assassin's Creed are the best selling games despite being a console like game you fool yourself all Sony console are not for casuals,hardcore game always sold better then casual on Sony homeconsole and handheld.


And you are proving my point. It's a handled, it was not supposed to be targeted for hardcore gamers. Why do you think Nintendo is dominating the handheld market??? I have both PS3 and PS4, the only motivation I have to buy a Vita is the PS4 remoteplay.

About the mention of Terraway, I just saw the trailer, I can't believe Sony didn't campain the hell out of this game.

Sony handheld are not Nintendo handheld Sony gamers are not Nintendo gamers ,Nintendo handheld sold well because of Casual but not vita how casuals games will save Vita when all the casuals games on Vita when those game bomb.



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m

Nintendo takes the kids, Smartphones/cell phones take the high school/college age kids. Dude bros don't care for gaming on the go.

So that basically leaves Sony with the "Marcus crowd" ... 13-15 year old boys who still want a handheld but haven't discovered more interesting pursuits outside of the house ... once they get their driver's license it's bye bye handhelds.



small44 said:
riecsou said:

And you are proving my point. It's a handled, it was not supposed to be targeted for hardcore gamers. Why do you think Nintendo is dominating the handheld market??? I have both PS3 and PS4, the only motivation I have to buy a Vita is the PS4 remoteplay.

About the mention of Terraway, I just saw the trailer, I can't believe Sony didn't campain the hell out of this game.

Sony handheld are not Nintendo handheld Sony gamers are not Nintendo gamers ,Nintendo handheld sold well because of Casual but not vita how casuals games will save Vita when all the casuals games on Vita when those game bomb.

PSP sold 80 millions, and their best selling game is at 7.55 millions.

3DS sold 40 millions and their best selling game is at 8.7 millions.

The Vita has been promoted like a hardcode handheld, which I think was a mistake. Vita should have not been targeted at "Sony gamers". If you are building a handheld you don't restrict yourself to "Sony Gamers". When PS2 was dominating the world and most people were "Sony Gamers", that didn't help that much the sales of the PSP.

So the DS sold more than 150 millions while Wii currently hold 100 Millions. Game Boy solde almost 120 millions while Nintendo sold 62 millions, N64 + Game Cube is less than 60 millions when Game Boy Advanced is at 80 millions... Do you really think "Nintendo gamers" are the one buying 3DS, DS, Game Boy, Game Boy Advanced????