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S.T.A.G.E. on 14 July 2013
morenoingrato said:
Such a shame if production values and AI are his standard for quality. :/

Japanese developers are on a downfall because they try to recreate the superfluous crap Western developers do.


Ai makes gameplay more challenging. If the Ai is used properly the gameplay bar actually rises. The Japanese are taking advantage of this to prevent stagnation in the evolution of their games. If they learn from the west but increase the quality of what they already have, we all win. It can't all be westerners fault. MGS5 looks like Kojima has been taking notes from Uncharted & Resident Evil.



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curl-6 on 14 July 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
curl-6 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


I think GTA 5 has taken the crown for gameplay this gen so far as it seems. Last of Us and Super Mario Galaxy are next. The GOTY is going to be tough to choose as it seems.

I still need to play Bioshock Infinite and the rest of The Last of Us, but I very much doubt GTA5 will be a candidate GOTY for me, GTA's never really worked for me.

As far as critics  awards go TLOU and GTA5 should be in close contention.

i've played Bioshock and TLOU has a much greater chance imho, even though Bioshock was quite impressive. GTA V crept up behind us with the gameplay. Never knew a open world game could be that deep in gameplay advantages. Seems like its going to be a long and deep game with a wide variety of alternatives. You have your spectrum of alternatives, your personalities, and the vast world thats multiple times the size of San Andreas. Makes me want to get Red Dead Redemption and go to work. Heh

Red Dead didn't really appeal to me either, Rockstar's whole gamemaking style is a bit at odds with what makes me tick.

Loved the first Bioshock though, loved the hell out of it. Still one of my top games of the gen. I really should have played Infinite already, but I'm saving it for when I move into my new place. (Finished University, leaving campus)

I'll say this much, unless games like Infinite, TLOU, Batman, DKC, etc somehow fall far short of their predecessors, 2013's gonna be a waaaay better year for games than last year.



S.T.A.G.E. on 14 July 2013
curl-6 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
curl-6 said:

i've played Bioshock and TLOU has a much greater chance imho, even though Bioshock was quite impressive. GTA V crept up behind us with the gameplay. Never knew a open world game could be that deep in gameplay advantages. Seems like its going to be a long and deep game with a wide variety of alternatives. You have your spectrum of alternatives, your personalities, and the vast world thats multiple times the size of San Andreas. Makes me want to get Red Dead Redemption and go to work. Heh

Red Dead didn't really appeal to me either, Rockstar's whole gamemaking style is a bit at odds with what makes me tick.

Loved the first Bioshock though, loved the hell out of it. Still one of my top games of the gen. I really should have played Infinite already, but I'm saving it for when I move into my new place. (Finished University, leaving campus)

I'll say this much, unless games like Infinite, TLOU, Batman, DKC, etc somehow fall far short of their predecessors, 2013's gonna be a waaaay better year for games than last year.

I don't know if DKC or Batman will make the list. Rocksteady isn't making the next Batman game and without the Joker it doesn't seem as nice, but deathstroke is one of my favorite assassins in DC, so I'll be keeping and eye on it. He's not as interesting as deadpool, but he's deadlier than Marvels bullseye. I enjoyed the last DK game but it never made GOTY in its year (2011, correct?) 

Red Dead is very fun, it just takes time getting used to all of that world and gameplay that is at your disposal. I never got to finish it, but I still have my save on my PS3 so I can pick up where I left off. The Zombie DLC needs to be purchased as well.



curl-6 on 14 July 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
curl-6 said:

Red Dead didn't really appeal to me either, Rockstar's whole gamemaking style is a bit at odds with what makes me tick.

Loved the first Bioshock though, loved the hell out of it. Still one of my top games of the gen. I really should have played Infinite already, but I'm saving it for when I move into my new place. (Finished University, leaving campus)

I'll say this much, unless games like Infinite, TLOU, Batman, DKC, etc somehow fall far short of their predecessors, 2013's gonna be a waaaay better year for games than last year.

I don't know if DKC or Batman will make the list. Rocksteady isn't making the next Batman game and without the Joker it doesn't seem as nice, but deathstroke is one of my favorite assassins in DC, so I'll be keeping and eye on it. He's not as interesting as deadpool, but he's deadlier than Marvels bullseye. I enjoyed the last DK game but it never made GOTY in its year (2011, correct?) 

Batman may not be by Rocksteady this time, but so far I haven't seen any glaring warning signs that it'll disappoint, looks good to me.

While DKC isn't be the kind of game that wins critic's GOTY awards, I found DKCR one of 2010's top games, and again, the sequel doesn't seem to be a step down, so both games will likely end up as GOTY candidates for me. (I expect TLOU or Infinite to take the top spot, but who knows?)



JOKA_ on 14 July 2013

GTAV looks like the complete package



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dane007 on 14 July 2013

Kojima is a drama queen . Needs to stop complaining and focus on making games that doesn't have long boring cutscenes.. i loved his old MGS titles but MGS4 was boring in the cutscenes areas . MGS5 looks promising and can't wait to play. In saying that i would rather play Mgs games then GTS games.



S.T.A.G.E. on 14 July 2013
dane007 said:
Kojima is a drama queen . Needs to stop complaining and focus on making games that doesn't have long boring cutscenes.. i loved his old MGS titles but MGS4 was boring in the cutscenes areas . MGS5 looks promising and can't wait to play. In saying that i would rather play Mgs games then GTS games.


Kojima is a movie director by profession who makes videogames. What do you expect from him?



twilight_link on 14 July 2013

The problem with Sony is quite simple, Nintendo was for many generation driving force in Japanese development, they were harsh and unforgiving, but they forced the industry to progress, then Sony became new force but their only success was role of an Anti-Nintendo, the publishers became certain under Sony that they control the platform holder and success of Playstation depend on them they became lazy.

Nintendo on the other hand in order to survive forced themselves to play safe and to find new opportunities because the original market went to Sony, they supported platform mostly of their own with little external support.

The truth is for Sony was not important who provide the content, and so the entire industry lack of creative force lead to stagnation and then downfall.

Now they are no longer leaders but mere emulators they try to emulate western model with hardly any understanding from their own market, and this is why for example PS3 saw only two million sellers, pathetic compared to any previous generations.



S.T.A.G.E. on 14 July 2013
twilight_link said:
The problem with Sony is quite simple, Nintendo was for many generation driving force in Japanese development, they were harsh and unforgiving, but they forced the industry to progress, then Sony became new force but their only success was role of an Anti-Nintendo, the publishers became certain under Sony that they control the platform holder and success of Playstation depend on them they became lazy.

Nintendo on the other hand in order to survive forced themselves to play safe and to find new opportunities because the original market went to Sony, they supported platform mostly of their own with little external support.

The truth is for Sony was not important who provide the content, and so the entire industry lack of creative force lead to stagnation and then downfall.

Now they are no longer leaders but mere emulators they try to emulate western model with hardly any understanding from their own market, and this is why for example PS3 saw only two million sellers, pathetic compared to any previous generations.

This makes zero sense. I think you're just angry that Sony took the crown and expanded the gaming industry to almost double the capacity Nintendo and sega created.



twilight_link on 14 July 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
twilight_link said:
The problem with Sony is quite simple, Nintendo was for many generation driving force in Japanese development, they were harsh and unforgiving, but they forced the industry to progress, then Sony became new force but their only success was role of an Anti-Nintendo, the publishers became certain under Sony that they control the platform holder and success of Playstation depend on them they became lazy.

Nintendo on the other hand in order to survive forced themselves to play safe and to find new opportunities because the original market went to Sony, they supported platform mostly of their own with little external support.

The truth is for Sony was not important who provide the content, and so the entire industry lack of creative force lead to stagnation and then downfall.

Now they are no longer leaders but mere emulators they try to emulate western model with hardly any understanding from their own market, and this is why for example PS3 saw only two million sellers, pathetic compared to any previous generations.

This makes zero sense. I think you're just angry that Sony took the crown and expanded the gaming industry to almost double the capacity Nintendo and sega created.

Of course they expanded and this is why even on this huge market that Sony build the Japanese developers failed to find success, your answer truly make perfect sense :)