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It's a mistake to think PS4/Next Xbox won't provide a generational leap in terms of graphics

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Is there actually anyone who can claim this is not a leap?




Yoshinori Ono said this is real-time on PS4 - yes, it does look like it's rendered. But let's give a man the benefit of a doubt.



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Well yeah it took Naughty Dog 3 games to use 100% of the PS3 correctly so I assume we might be in a similar situation. Comparing Uncharted 1 graphics to Uncharted 3 graphics is really amazing.



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BasilZero said:


Mario - that is all you need for me to join the bandwagon (even though I was planning to get one either ways!)


I guess people is making the same mistake that happened with Wii U: believing launch games are everything the console has to offer. Patience is what we need, it seems.


Not talking about New Super Mario Bros U - that is a stale game D:



    

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BasilZero said:



Not talking about New Super Mario Bros U - that is a stale game D:

You haven't even played it though. 

Anywho, we should drop this.



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NintendoPie said:
BasilZero said:



Not talking about New Super Mario Bros U - that is a stale game D:

You haven't even played it though. 

Anywho, we should drop this.


Not the game itself but the idea especially since its been less than a year since NSMB2 came out. Its time for a new 3D mario and/or Smash Bros game to come out.

Its like expecting a CoD game coming out every 6 months, its stale.

Its even too early for a Mario Kart.



    

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KHlover said:
People said the same about the PS3/Xbox360. And the WiiU. Probably also about the Nextbox. This bickering doesn't deserve any attention.

This. Wii U owners have been defending their console over the last few months with, "it's only a 1st gen game", "it's just a port", "games not yet optimised", "it's low budget" etc. and now we are starting to hear some of the same comments from Sony quarters.

They were valid defences before, they still are now, and they will continue to be when we start seeing some Nextbox games.

Anyone 'attacking' a system power based on the first batch of games either hasn't been around very long or is participating in points scoring against the 'opposition'.

Killzone looks really nice and probably has the biggest scale of any game I've seen in this kind of setting but it's pretty much exactly what I expected and no more. The debate arises from the following: on one hand we have one group hyping these graphics as the second coming (they're not), another group attacking them for not being the second coming, and another group seeing and appreciating them for what they are, the start of a very nice bump for console owners.



HoloDust said:
Is there actually anyone who can claim this is not a leap?




Yoshinori Ono said this is real-time on PS4 - yes, it does look like it's rendered. But let's give a man the benefit of a doubt.

Exactly! On one side we have people worried it's CGI and on the other side we have people thinking "meh." That's a good indication that most of them just don't like the PS4 and are trying to hate on it.



wfz said:

The problem isn't the increase in graphics; the problem is the decreased return on investment into graphics.

The better things become, the less noticeable the changes are and general consumers will care less about these graphical increases.

While I think this is reserved for another topic, I do agree the average person might not notice a difference. With the right type of marketing though, I think people might find their current systems to be inadequate. Who knows?

That being said, I don't think developers should stop investing into graphics. It's still an untapped market where I imagine many smartphone gamers who have never even touched a PS3/360 game. There's still much to gain from here and people do love eye candy. Plus, graphics do truly enhance the gameplay, whether some people want to believe that or not.



TheKoreanGuy said:

I've seen people here and there proclaiming how they were disappointed in the demos they saw during the PS4 unveiling, mostly because the games didn't seem to provide any sort of generational leap over PS3/360. While I understand their concerns, it's too early to assume nothing will change as times goes by. The best and earliest examples are PS3/360 launch games. Compare them to games today and the difference is quite noticeable. A lot of the earlier games look like up-resed PS2/Xbox games. Even so, the PS4 demos we've seen look amazing, if you ask me, and it will only get better. We've been down this road before, but to put it simply, developers need more time to master the hardware.

There's also so much more that goes into graphics these days. Advanced physics and AI systems, texture resolution, post processing effects, dynamic lighting and shadows, particle effects, etc. It's really up to the developers now with how they choose to harness the potential of these machines. But I have full faith they will continue to provide new, breathtaking experiences in this next gen.

This comes to mind: http://i.imgur.com/ChsSwUE.png



Compare the first Pikmin 3 demo and X on Wii U. The difference in graphics is huge, X looks so much better. Now remember that games Sony showed are at the same stage now that Pikmin 3 was at the time of reveal - almost a year before the launch of the platform. In a year we're going to see a similar move forward as we saw on Wii U and that is still just going to be the start. Once devs get 3-4 games under their belt graphics are going to be breathtaking :) I just hope that the crisis ends soon, cause devs need more money to fund those awesome games.



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